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2005-10-31, 10:43
Ok i know this is proberly an age old question but what is the best way of stopping yourself and your bag and pad ending up at the bottom/middle of the hammock with your feet pushed up into the furthest reaches of the knot end of the hammock ???? . . . .or is this just me being to tall

2005-10-31, 11:21
Quick and easy help for this: Hang the foot end slightly higher than the head end of your hammock. Also, a piece of rubber, grippy shelp liner or rug grip helps.


2005-10-31, 11:24
Rosaleen beat me to the punch: hang the foot end slightly higher. It's amazing how that minor modification can stop the drop! :elefant:

2005-10-31, 14:55
Rosaleen beat me to the punch: hang the foot end slightly higher. It's amazing how that minor modification can stop the drop! :elefant:

ok this is going to sound stupid but how much higher is slightly higher. a smidgen, a gnats or lots :confused: :biggrin:

2005-10-31, 14:57
Try one to two inches higher on the foot end...


2005-10-31, 15:03
Is that all!?! sounds tooooo easy will try it next time hopefully soon. thanks everybody :adore:

2005-10-31, 16:54
might be a bit more than an inch or two if you're really heavy, but that's about right... if you're too tall, there may be no help short of buying a longer hammock... but you'll soon figure it out...

also, this helps reduce the swelling in your hard-hiking feet overnight... just don't overdo it, or you'll end up with a headache and your head piled up in the knot at the other end!

2005-10-31, 20:18
Yeah, I raise the foot end of mine a little more than Pan also. It also helps to center the hammock between the supports, it you don't the end with the longer suppension lines drops more... but only when you get in the hammock. This can really fool you if you don't realize what is happening. Once you get it right you won't slide to the bottom of the hammock. I've found that if I error on the heat to foot slope, that it is best to have too much slope rather than not enough. I think that is because your feet tend to drop when you lay on the diagonal of the hammock and your center of gravity is biased towards your torso as well.


2005-10-31, 22:50
I first bought my hammock after reading time and time again
these guys here rave about them. My first trip out with a HH and
and 3/4 thermarest was a nightmare. I was sliding, shimmying, shifting,
and pulling acrobatic stunts there aren't even names for.
It was terrible.

Several options you can try out.

Product called "grippy". Its a roll of tape. Kind of hard to describe. It is
tough and very slightly abrasive like hockey stick tape. Buts its really
stretchy and rubbery. I put about 6 strips down the length of the
underside of my pad. It helped stop the pad moving ALOT. Especially
if you are a side sleeper and tend to alternate sides like me.
Over inflate your pad if you do this to a thermarest because otherwise,
the tape won't adhere well in all those little bumps. I also put some
books on it to weight it down for a few hrs. I bought the stuff
at a Canadian Tire store. I don't know an American equivalent of
this kind of big box store.

try your pad inside your bag. The loft from your bag gets all flattened
and crushed under you anyway in a hammock and doesn't really do much
good. I REALLY notice the temp difference if I slip off my pad at night.
And depending on temps/ time of year/ etc. Pad-in-bag works pretty well
in mild weather. Haven't tried it in really cold temps yet. In winter
I use two summer-bags inside the other, because stuffed they have
less volume than most mid-priced winter bags. I haven't tried this yet
but will soon ---> I was thinking of trying the pad between the two bag
layers. Will let you know the results.

For lack of a better term, i've been calling this one the "Butt-pod".
completely a personal preference thing. I use it almost every night out now,
and find it really comfortable, but obviously not to everyones liking.
I have been hanging the foot end of my hammock "MUCH higher" than
my head end. And also hanging the whole thing much lower to the
ground. It deforms the shape you are used to looking at quite a bit
this way. You end up sleeping in a kind of bowl with your feet elevated
as much as 24" above your head. But your door to get out ends up
being almost straight out, and slightly above you, so I recommend the
low the the ground pitch. I keep my butt about 6-8" off the ground now.
I have found this method to be super comfortable and is the only
instance where I have got a really good nights sleep on my back.
My pads and bags have never been a problem for bunching up because
my feet are so high. I do find however that in this position, I like to
have a shirt or some fleece to roll up for a pillow though. Never
really needed one with a more horizontal pitch.

2005-11-01, 12:05
Use a pillow or rolled-up shirt under your knees. That also raises your feet and legs and helps ease your "hard-hiking feet."

2005-11-03, 07:09
going 24" surely like seeker says gives you a headache dosent it???

2005-11-15, 20:12

I have never had a headache with my legs pitched high.
As far as tree selection and complete set up, everyone has their own
little tricks and "rules of thumb". However since you are new to hammocks,
and nobody else here offered their personal step by step method for set-up,
I will give you mine here.

First step - tree selection. I choose two trees fairly close together. When
the hammock is laid out, I like to go for trees that will leave me lots of line,
to play with. Aprox 4ft of hammock line to each tree + the length of the
hammock itself of course.

Step two - I keep a knot in the head end hammock line so I can plan where
my hammock "door" will be, and adjust for a head down, and into the wind,
orientation. Now depending on your weight and which hammock model you
purchase, this part can vary quite a bit. I wrap and tie off my "head-end"
tree hugger at neck level on the tree trunk and ensure it wont slip.
I let out about 3-4 ft of hammock line and tie to the tree hugger with the
standard hennessey knot. I let that hang and wrap and tie off the "foot-end"
tree hugger as high as I can reach on the tree, arms fully extended.
For me, this works out to roughly 30" difference in height from head end,
tree hugger, and foot end tree hugger.

Step three - I pull the footend hammock line through the foot end tree hugger
with a quite a bit of tension. You can put some body weight behind your
pull. Hennessey hammocks are not fragile. The result I want is that
the hammock is either centered between the two trees, or the foot-end
line is 1-2 ft longer. This gives me just the right amount of desired
stretch in a desired sleeping position.

Step four - Get in and try it out before adjusting your rainfly and getting
that all taunt. Make adjustments if needed.

The end result is when I lay in the hammock, on the diagonal. My feet
are roughly 18-24 inches above my head. Careful about lying too much
on the diagonal as you may find yourself waking up mostly on your
bug netting later in the night.

Here is what my pitch looks like in this configuration. Sorry that the
camera angle isn't better for demonstrating the difference in tree hugger
heights. I snapped this pic quickly on my camera phone, on a spur of
the moment hiking trip last week.


2005-11-16, 15:14
Thanks Turk

It sounds good i will try your method next time im out also liked the idea (gregh)about something under the knees, i found that after a while my knees became uncomfortable and thought it was down to the knee surgery i had some years ago. just need to work on ideas for keeping warm and find somewhere to go camping (you cant just camp where you like round here) im going to maybe try Jacks under cover as its on sale and see if that improves anything im sure it will, or try the two sleeping bags trick.
thanks everybody

2005-11-16, 17:29
im going to maybe try Jacks under cover as its on sale

Oo tell us how you get on with that,,,, I need to do something similar in the quilt line, I ended up with cold spots whilst over in California. Annoying rather than serious, but need something better than what I have at the mo, especiall as Uk nights tend to get down to below 40*F most nights.

2005-11-17, 04:01
Hi Don
im going to try the cover not the quilt but it does look good dosent it? sorry Don i meant the weather sheild. . .


2005-11-17, 21:32
...also liked the idea (gregh)about something under the knees, i found that after a while my knees became uncomfortable and thought it was down to the knee surgery i had some years ago.

I found after many nights in the hammock it wasn't that I'm getting old, as some trailmates had told me, but my knees were locking out. That was causing the soreness; especially when laying on my side. I slipped a rolled flannel shirt under my knees and, voila!, no pain in the morning. Now I run circles around those aging trailmates of mine! :elefant: