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Turk
2006-08-24, 18:07
Okay, I am looking for a new one-pot titanium solution.
Something between .8 - 1.2 litre would be great.
Long handles for cooking with wood fire is a plus
and crucial requirement is that it is wide enough to nest
the Sierra Zip Ti stove in. (stove = 5.5" dia x 3.5" high)


Thoughts? Ideas? anyone know for certain Ti pots that
will nest with this stove and pot weights?
I figured you guys would be the best place for the low down.

Lastly -
Does anyone know the dimensions of the following pots?

1. Liberty Mountain .8L, 27fl oz - TI kettle. wt: 3.75 oz.
http://www.libertymtn.com/catalog.php?type=product&id=1016

2. Liberty Mountain 30fl oz - TI Kettle Cooker wt: 5.4oz
http://www.mountaingearnow.com/home.php?type=product&id=1015

(something tells me these are generic items as I have seen the exact
same items for sale on several other websites with no indication who
the actual manufacturer is.)


3. Evernew .9L TI pot and lid (Like one Rock uses) I cant seem to find
any place to see or buy one.

Take-a-knee
2006-08-24, 18:23
This might be close, maybe you could check the manufacturers website.

http://www.backcountry.com/store/SNO0031/c3/s15/Snow-Peak-Trek-1400-Titanium-Cookset.html

Skidsteer
2006-08-24, 21:59
A zip stove can get pretty nasty to nest inside your pot. Are you planning to bag the stove first?

Turk
2006-08-24, 23:11
I don't mind blackened pots or ashes from the zip stove in my pot.
I don't plan to have any liner to separate them. Just a silny stuff sack to
put the 2 nested together in. The trek 1400 looks about the right size,
but it comes in at a pretty hefty 7.4oz. Was hoping there was something
lighter.

dropkick
2006-08-25, 01:43
Turk,
Why are you going with ti?
Aluminum is much cheaper and you have more choices.
Also if you want to fry something aluminum is the better choice, and weight differences are negligible.



----But as I now use a MSR stainless pot (I like the design) maybe I shouldn't give weight advice.

Turk
2006-08-25, 01:47
hey, I appreciate the "reality check". I am not trying to overtly be
a gram weenie. I am just having alot of internal conflict with the stupid
ti zip stove. It's heavy. (10oz) But no fuel. And I can have the comfort
of a simulated "camp fire". I guess I am just really trying to offset the
major weight of the stove itself. I didn't want to end up with a full
kitchen over the 1lb mark.

Skidsteer
2006-08-25, 08:48
FWIW, I put mine in a plastic bag then into an aluminum pot I found at a thrift store. I think the pot weighs about 5 oz.(I'm not home at the moment).

dropkick
2006-08-26, 01:31
hey, I appreciate the "reality check". I am not trying to overtly be a gram weenie. I am just having a lot of internal conflict with the stupid
ti zip stove. It's heavy. (10oz) But no fuel. And I can have the comfort
of a simulated "camp fire". I guess I am just really trying to offset the
major weight of the stove itself. I didn't want to end up with a full
kitchen over the 1lb mark.
If I'm going to be gone more than 2 days my zip stove actually lightens my load (I don't have the titanium model either).

Anyway, between my 9.5 oz stainless steel pot and my 6 oz cozy, unless I can use a campfire, I'm pretty much stuck with going over the 1 lb. mark.
I actually traded up in weight when I found gear that I thought would work better, and I think pretty I did well.

I traded a few oz. for much greater comfort and ease of use.
I was sick and tired of a pot I couldn't fit my hand in to clean, and burning myself every other time I tried to pick it up. Plus trying to eat out of the damned thing, with nothing to really hold on to, and having to make the meal in 2 parts because I didn't have enough room in the pot.


Here's your Evernew .9 L (http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=6188525&parent_category_rn=5760756)

And a nonstick Evernew .9 L (http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=47920364&parent_category_rn=6525426)

My advice on the Evernew pots: save 10.00 and get the uncoated pot, the nonstick never lasts.

JAK
2006-08-26, 12:30
How well does the zip stove work without the fan? Just curious?

TeeDee
2006-08-26, 22:01
What are the dimensions of the Zip stove?

I use the trailstove. It is a lttle less than 15 oz, 8.75" high, 4" top diameter and 5.15" bottom diameter. I was thinking about the Zip Stove, all of the reviews were excellant, but I didn't care to carry 1, 2, 3, 4 or more months worth of batteries. The reviews for the TrailStove were just as good and I have found it to be excellant (and no batteries).

I have a Magic Flame stove (from Switzerland) on order. It is very small, about 6" high with a square opening about 4.5" on a side. It folds flat. At 18 oz it is the heaviest of the three. But no batteries for it either. Folding flat saves on the volume.

Does the 10 oz for the Zip Stove include the batteries?? And how long do the batteries last. The only other stove that I found that uses batteries, quotes their life span at about 10 hrs. The vendor sells a solar recharger also, but the recharger is over 1 lb.

Turk
2006-08-27, 00:35
The dimensions of the Ti model zip stove are 5.5" dia x 3.5" high. This is
a fair bit smaller than the original sierra zip stove. The 10oz weight does not
include the single AA battery. The claimed 6hr run time seems to be very
accurate based on 5 or more owner reviews I checked out. Now this is
also based on an alkaline battery. No info on extended time on a lith ion
battery. Worth noting is that the D-cell battery accessory which gives the
original zip stove 35hrs run time is not supposed to be used with the Ti
model. Not sure why, perhaps a difference in fan motor.