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incognito
2007-01-17, 21:24
While at Kmart today I took a liking to the Martha Stuart flour sifter. Price was 6.29. Made of stainless steel, mirror finish. It will make a good looking wood burner.

The size is 4 inches in diameter and 4 1/2 inches tall

Took it apart and cut some holes in it. It is going to be a single wall, passive burner.

It weighs in at 90 grams/2.89 ounces. as you see it. Still have to add a few pieces to support a pot. Nothing fancy, just 4 of something small. Will test burn it tomorrow with the same fuel that I used for the modified zip.

I'll keep you informed as I progress. Here are some photos.

Before the parts are removed (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthawood002.jpg)

All parts removed (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthawood004.jpg)

One of the screens reinserted (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthawood007.jpg)after being cut to allow air to pass

Holes cut at base (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthawood008.jpg)

oops56
2007-01-17, 21:53
Dam now i got to go to town wal mart good idea

Mutinousdoug
2007-01-17, 22:10
Inco,
Do you know what Martha is likely to have done to you when her people find out you butchered one of her K-Mart creations? She should have some pretty scary contacts now.

On another note, are you going to put the handle back on when you're done? I'm constantly regretting the place I put my stove when the wind changes and can't handle the thing to re-orient it. You know? like on top of a plastic picnic table. Also, my grandma's kitchen stove had a shaker thingy underneath to freshen the coals without opening the top and stirring...
just askin'..:bandit:

JAK
2007-01-18, 04:55
The sifter thing might be fun to shake the coals a bit. Put that back too. :D

Great stove idea.

incognito
2007-01-18, 11:14
Inco,
Do you know what Martha is likely to have done to you when her people find out you butchered one of her K-Mart creations?

On another note, are you going to put the handle back on when you're done? .just askin'..:bandit:

When they catch up with me I'll tell them it was only a slight modification not butchered:biggrin:

Handle will not go back on, I have a spring loaded gizzmo that I use for hot pots, will include it in a photo


oops56 Dam now i got to go to town wal mart good idea
I got mine at Kmart, but let me know if walmart has something similar.


JAK The sifter thing might be fun to shake the coals a bit. Put that back too.
JAK, when you make yours do a short version of mine. The only tool required will be a pair of pliars. Disassemble inner works and then reassemble using only one screen and a shaker. No need to cut holes on the bottom like I did, just raise it up off the ground with 4 of something that is about 1 inch in height. Let the handle remain, it's required for the shaker. Wrap some ceramic insulation around it, install an outer wall, a solar powered fan, a pieazo ignition system, an automatic injection system that will spray the bottom of the pot with an oven type cleaner to make clean up fun. :biggrin:

What are some of the other things we can add to it to make it more uptodate?

JAK
2007-01-18, 22:04
LMFAO :beer:
A convection oven maybe. Or maybe something for turning a squirrel on a spit. Make that a field mouse. Gotta stay ultralight. :eating:

p.s. Also more in keeping with the best layed plans, though perhaps with an uglier twist than Mr. Burns. :tee:

toddhiker
2007-01-18, 22:19
Well,

For better or worse, I had to go to both Wally & Target today. Both places had this sifter...

incognito
2007-01-18, 23:20
LMFAO :beer:
A convection oven maybe. Or maybe something for turning a squirrel on a spit. Make that a field mouse. Gotta stay ultralight. :eating:

p.s. Also more in keeping with the best layed plans, though perhaps with an uglier twist than Mr. Burns. :tee:


Good idea on the turning spit, saw a documentary type thing on tv years ago about a guy that did a study on wolves. He ate a lot of field mice while living in the remote area. Lets make that our next challenge, what say all.:biggrin: roast mice on a hobo spit.

Here is an abreviated update and to see it in its entire use the link at the bottom of the page. I'm not able to cut and paste the photos from there.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dances with Mice
So what if you were to cut slots below the top rim instead? Slots like you have on the bottom.

That would take away from fuel capacity and draft. I found out the pot supports should be higher to allow more air flow. I charged the stove in the same manner as the Zzip and same quantity and weight.

After two min. into the burn I put the pot on. Smokin!!!!! for the next 3 min just like you see in the photo.At that point I lifted the pot an inch or so and swhoosh. At that point it burned just fine, I let it be while I tried franticly to turn the exhaust fan on, it came on and cleared the greenhouse in short order.

The 2 cups of water boiled in eight min. When it reached boiling I removed the pot with the cast aluminum spring loaded gripper that you see in the photo. There was a good amount of fuel left in chamber. The three pot supports remained stable, will make three more only a tad taller. My next test burn will be tomorrow. Same amount of fuel, will let it burn for awhile longer before the pot is put on.

We're going to see 2 cups of water boiled with less smoke and only one filling of the chamber. Not bad for a single wall hobo stove.

Wait till you see this stove modified with a turbocharger ramjet etc. etc. It's a little more sophisticated than a blow tube.

fuel left in burn chamber after boil



Here is the link that shows the photos, also read upwards of previous update. (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showpost.php?p=305711&postcount=16)



2007-01-18 20:19
toddhiker Well,

For better or worse, I had to go to both Wally & Target today. Both places had this sifter...

Did you buy one? Good to know they are avail at both. Thanks Toddhiker

Oops56, did you get one?

Turk, how about you? oops, forgot, you've got the bushbuddy:adore:

JAK
2007-01-19, 00:09
I saw that movie a couple of times. Great film. One of my all time favourites.
Very funny in parts. Never Cry Wolf.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Cry_Wolf_%28film%29

toddhiker
2007-01-19, 10:45
Did you buy one? Good to know they are avail at both. Thanks Toddhiker

Oops56, did you get one?

Turk, how about you? oops, forgot, you've got the bushbuddy:adore:[/QUOTE]

Yes, I'm gonna start experimenting this weekend (if I can, in between my kids' soccer games, etc!). Thanks for always trying new things, and keeping us thinking.

incognito
2007-01-19, 11:04
I saw that movie a couple of times. Great film. One of my all time favourites.
Very funny in parts. Never Cry Wolf.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Cry_Wolf_%28film%29

That's the one!!!!! I'm going to see if I can rent it this weekend and see how he prepares the mice. Emeril Live , kick it up a notch, Bam Bam Bam, mice on the spit. I have a couple of those catch mice alive traps. I can process them just before the roast. We're going to eat good come spring!!!!!!! ( Just Kidding)

incognito
2007-01-19, 11:06
I saw that movie a couple of times. Great film. One of my all time favourites.
Very funny in parts. Never Cry Wolf.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Cry_Wolf_%28film%29

That's the one!!!!! I'm going to see if I can rent it this weekend and see how he prepares the mice. Emeril Live , kick it up a notch, Bam Bam Bam, mice on the spit. I have a couple of those catch mice alive traps. I can process them just before the roast. We're going to eat good come spring!!!!!!! ( Just Kidding)


Yes, I'm gonna start experimenting this weekend (if I can, in between my kids' soccer games, etc!). Thanks for always trying new things, and keeping us thinking.
Have fun doing both!!!!

KBob
2007-01-19, 11:20
Hey combine both, the soccer games and you can bring the snack, BBQued, meat surprise!. If the kids like it great if not back to the drawing board.

toddhiker
2007-01-19, 15:31
Hey combine both, the soccer games and you can bring the snack, BBQued, meat surprise!. If the kids like it great if not back to the drawing board.

KBob,

LOL! The kids would love it, the adults would look at me like some dangerous, crazed, lunatic....wait, they already do....

incognito
2007-01-19, 18:17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dances with Mice
So what if you were to cut slots below the top rim instead? Slots like you have on the bottom.

Got to thinking about that, kinda kept pokin at me. I was going to increase the height of the pot supports, but instead I cut 3 slots 2 inches long (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthawood019.jpg)spaced equaly around to allow more air to flow. Thanks Dances with Mice!!!!! It was not Instead but Along With. Made all the difference in the world. Never deny your wood stove oxygen!!!!!!!More Is Better

After 2 min into burn flames (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthawood020.jpg)started to appear


Going onto 3 min (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthawood022.jpg)

Burned so hot and fast (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthawood023.jpg)it used up most fuel and began a decline so I sarted adding tounge depressors thru newly formed 2 in. slots at the top. They worked great. The charge of wood was not the same as yesterday, no big clothespins or the 2 pcs of 7/8 dowels. I was able to see how this little hobo drafts and looks while burning so I changed tactics.

I cut up some real wood, (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthawood025.jpg) seasoned, nice and dry, crisp when broken. What you see in the burn chamber in this photo was lit and when smoke stopped I added more fuel to level of stove top and then put the pot on.

Approaching 8 min (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthawood026.jpg)the water temp was over the 200 degree mark and was starting to steam (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthawood027.jpg)then boiled at 8 min (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthawood028.jpg).
and boiled for a space of time. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthawood030.jpg)

The last photo shows the color (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthawood031.jpg)of the stove after 6 burn tests and shows it was 30 degrees when last three tests were completed.

I have a bunch more photos that were taken but not used for these posts. I have in the works my own web site to post all the details of the cutting, dimensions etc. In the works means on paper It'll be a place for sharing, showing and telling. Those of you that make stoves have a fairly good idea of how this one is made just by viewing the photos. Hope you have as much fun making yours as I had making mine

This little hobo will stand tall next to the commercial ones. Spread the word, Martha Stewart Rocks when it comes to sifters

Add the slot on the side and use it for an alcohol burner.

Final weight: 88 grams 2.83 ounces

Final cost: $6.29 six dollars and twenty nine cents U.S.A currency.
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Turk
2007-01-19, 19:18
:adore: :adore: :adore: :adore:

we're not worthy! Man that is your best wood burner yet. Absolutely sick!

that deserves some kind of award.

Would you allow me to do a 'feature' for my website? Pics and a DIY instructions with images?
fully credited of course.

incognito
2007-01-19, 22:38
Turk!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the Kudus:beer:

As soon as I get all the info and specs and photos inline you may post them on your site.

incognito
2007-02-07, 17:35
Purchased some new muffin fans, lap top computer coolers. Little fans but put out a lot of air for their size. They are of the brushless type. They don't create a blast furnace just the right amount to get the fuel started and maintain a constant air flow to maintain a hot fire.

Modified one to fit into a stainless steel tube. I cut the mounting holes off.

Tube is made of .003 stainless full hard.

Fan is 3 inches away from stove, heat has no effect on it. Fiberglass cloth sleeve will protect wires.
A 1 inch wide strip of .003 stainless is to cover all but one hole at base of stove to close off holes to direct all fan blown air in upward direction, fits on inside of stove. Can be removed easily to use stove without air assist fan.

The tube, fan and hole cover weigh a total of 15 grams/.529 ounce. They fit inside stove for storage.

The 6 volt battery pack weighs 35 grams/1.234 ounce and is a 1300 MAH capacity. Fan is rated at 0.12A Battery pack available at Radio Shack

Total weight of stove and air assist kit combined is 98.5 grams/3.47 ounces (less battery)

Photo one (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthastewart001.jpg)

Photo two (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthastewart002.jpg)

Photo three (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/marthastewart004.jpg)

Just a side note:: The Bushbuddy weighs 4.7 ounces without an air assist.

Lanthar
2007-02-07, 19:05
nicely done... gotta get me one...
btw - how's the mess holding up after multiple burns?

JAK
2007-02-07, 19:19
That's not a bad weight at all for a wood stove.

incognito
2007-02-08, 11:52
The "Martha Stewart" stove will be auctioned off on Whiteblaze this afternoon.

I have too many stoves. It is slightly used but in great shape.

Come join the fun, maybe you can win the bid and get it cheap.

incognito
2007-02-08, 16:23
It's on the auction block

I'm in recovery, one stove at a time. (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=21488)

Lanthar, the stainless steel grate is holding up just fine . (text added)

incognito
2007-02-09, 11:54
It's on the auction block

I'm in recovery, one stove at a time. (http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=21488)

Lanthar, the stainless steel grate is holding up just fine . (text added)

I reduced the opening bid down to $.75 cents. Christmas must have put a strain on everyones budget or else everyones making one at home. Have any of you started making one? or at least have purchased the sifter?

Somebody is going to walk away with this little hobo for 75 cents or less. If no bids today, I'll reduce it to .50 cents.

I will ship to Canada :biggrin:

JAK
2007-02-09, 15:59
LOL. I did get as far as checking out Zellers and the Dollar store for parts,
but I haven't made it to Walmart yet. Best of luck with your eBay therapy.
:tee:

incognito
2007-02-09, 17:27
LOL. I did get as far as checking out Zellers and the Dollar store for parts,
but I haven't made it to Walmart yet. Best of luck with your eBay therapy.
:tee:

I ship to NewBrunswick also. I'm easy to get along with.

rbd
2007-02-09, 18:55
It looks like you'll have to pay someone to take it off your hands.

oops56
2007-02-09, 19:12
I think no one likes black pots even me dont

incognito
2007-02-09, 22:52
WhoooHooooooo, we got a bidder, I'm on my way to recovery!!!!!!!!!

Looks like the great state of Texas may be the winner.

Turk uses wood for fuel most of the time.

I use wood most of the time. (campfire) alcohol backup

Wait till your fire gets to rollin good after the smoke disappears, then put the pot on. Use dry fuel, no pine cones, no pine anything, too much pitch, no knots pitchy pitchy pitchy pine yucky yucky yucky.

The Martha Stewart AKA Martha Stixx is a solid solid stove. Once people start making them, they'll become popular. The material is readily available. All you need is a whitney type metal punch to make the openings. Nibble out the metal till the holes are big enough. Its stainless steel, no rust, has rolled lip top and bottom for super strength. The stainless steel mesh grate gives it super strenght in its mid section. Light weight, this thing is light.

The only drawback to this stove is you have to know how to build the fire in it. It's operator error that screws things up. Pitchy Pitchy Pine


:tee: New Jersey Tea (Ceonothus Americanus)

rbd
2007-02-10, 16:18
Incognito,

Couple of questions as I've been interested in what you're doing with both this and the Zip stove.

Why did you decide to sell this stove? Is the modified ZIP stove better?

My experience with the Zip stove has been that it really, really does help to supply forced air in order to increase the oxygen level. I haven't had a problem with the battery as I don't get out for long periods of time, but has anyone looked for, found or tested a "wind up" fan instead of battery powered?

Turk
2007-02-10, 17:16
I dont have access over on whiteblazes. Never bothered with an account.
But I will make a bid on the Martha Stewart. Don't know what the current numbers are at. But i'll open with $6.29USD. Let me know if I am outbid.

incognito
2007-02-10, 20:05
rbd!!!!!

Why did you decide to sell this stove? Is the modified ZIP stove better?

I have too many stoves. Really, I thought that alot of people would like to have a stove like this one because it's light weight and WORKS. Works without air assist. Most people don't have the tools to modify the sifter. Why not make one stove available and see what the response is. It was easy nfor me to make.

The modified zip works fine but not better and it's heavy.

There are things that can be done to the Martha stixx to make it even better. The basic structure of the sifter is absolutely the stove makers dream. Compare the structure to the popular BushBuddy. I have established that the double wall, preheated air is way over rated and insignificant to the performance of one of these little wood burners. Come on guys, look at these little stoves in a realistic way.

Turk!!!! I'll see to it that a proxy bid of $6.00 is placed in yor name via "Fireboy" Thanks for your bid.

incognito
2007-02-10, 20:52
Turk you've been out bid!!!!!

Current bid is $7.00

Time is now 6:52 central standard

Bidding ends at 8;00 central standard time

incognito
2007-02-10, 22:55
Sold!!!!!!!!!

$7.00

Can you believe it?

That cured me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Turk
2007-02-11, 00:16
No worries. ... just for that.... check this one out :biggrin:
will post in new thread. I wasn't quite ready to release the details
on it yet. Still some design problems. But I was making pizza when
bidding ended on the Martha stewart. Lets see how old Martha stands
against the feats of the brand new"Canadian Bakin'Stove"