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2008-08-07, 11:19
Hey guys, you all were so helpful before, thougth I might ask another question.

What do you suggest for water purifiers? Tablets, Pur, etc?

Thanks again for your help.

2008-08-07, 12:03
I like sweetwater drops when the water source is questionable

cool breeze
2008-08-07, 12:15
I carry Aqua Mira. Don't use it much.

2008-08-07, 12:16
Aqua Mira is great, but you have to mix.....sweetwater is premixed....I"m a convert

2008-08-07, 12:25
Sweetwater are tablets that kills, or mutates the bacteria's DNA right?

The stuff is still in the water, but can't harm you?

I am not too sure I like that, what about the Pur filters?

2008-08-07, 12:50
Sweetwater are drops that are supposed to go along with the fliters....kills viruses

2008-08-07, 12:51
THe "filter" that does that is the steripen.....hevey but the best tasting option out there other then stright from the source

2008-08-07, 12:51
What type of filter do you use?

2008-08-07, 12:58
DOn't anymore......I keep good eye on the source, and if I need it, I use the drops.....I have not gotten sick once!

2008-08-07, 13:01
Have you heard of any good ones?

2008-08-07, 13:03
See I have a Pur water pitcher at the house and about 5 extra filters, I was thinking I could use the filters and rig some type of bag that gets the water from the stream and brings it to the filter.

But I am not too sure if the home Pur Filter is the same as the ones used for outdoor use.

2008-08-07, 13:04
Filters....nah. If you feel that you need to carry something, check out the steri pen. They make them pretty light now, and you can even grab a solar recharger. Nothing can replace the taste of fresh from the spring water.......

SGT Rock
2008-08-07, 14:34
Iodine pills for short trips. Polar Pure for longer ones. But I don't use it all the time.

2008-08-07, 15:04
According to the Wilderness Medical Society, water temperatures above 160 F (70 C) kill all pathogens within 30 minutes and above 185 F (85 C) within a few minutes. So in the time it takes for the water to reach the boiling point (212 F or 100 C) from 160 F (70 C), all pathogens will be killed, even at high altitude."

So, with that quote being said, you only need to get your water to a rolling boil. By that point you know the water is hot enough and that the disease organisms in your water were destroyed quite some time earlier. End of story, turn off the heat. Stop wasting fuel. Let the water cool down. Your water is safe to drink!

2008-08-07, 15:17
I use the MiOx system, if the source is known to be pure I may use nothing. It seems OK, but is a bit time consuming to use. The Aqua Mira, sweetwater drops and MiOx use some form of chlorine to disinfect (kill) the bacteria, viruses, and Protozoans (Giardia and Crypto). Iodine is also a chemical treatment that kills bacteria and virus, but is not as effective against protozoans. You have to wait before drinking. These chemical systems also do not remove floating stuff or sediment. They also leave an aftertaste.

Filters will remove floaters and sediment and bacteria and protozoans (but the dirtier the water the more you have to clean the filter). Only 1 filter removes virus (without chemicals) and that is the First Need filter, which weighs about 1 lb. Filters have the advantage, that you can drink immediately (which means nice cool water) and have no aftertaste.

Water treatment boils down to tradeoffs and what do YOU choose to do. Several here don't treat or have enough experience to look at a water source and make a more informed decision as to what they think the purity may be. You never know if your system of treatment is working, but you may find out if it doesn't work.

2008-08-07, 15:37
but you may find out if it doesn't work.

That sounds fun!

Thanks guys for your input, I don't feel comfortable not treating/purifying the water, there are a couple things I have in mind, I'll post later what it "boils down to"*

*pun intended.

2008-08-07, 19:10
I've been using the Steripen for the last three or four months. I must confess that I only treat about 30-40% of my water.

Nice thing about the Steripen is that you can put your spoon and toothbrush in your bottle with a bit of water and sanitize the lot, which may well do as much or more to prevent the green apple splatters as filtering water.

Frolicking Dino
2008-08-07, 20:04
Aqua Mira if I use anything. I used bleach for years before that. I don't treat water from streams in the highlands with no civilization above or water from springs -- and I try to get all of my water except for cooking from those. Cooking kills anything in the water. If I'm really concerned about a water source and must use it, I will boil it. The 10 to 15 minutes it takes is a lot easier to sacrifice than abiding a bad case of the squirts.

2008-08-08, 00:14
I use an MSR miniworks or Steripen, depending where I'm going. Using the Steripen requires a bit of faith.

2008-08-08, 01:26
We use the MiOX - I even love the motto which is something like
'kill organisms you can't pronounce using technology you don't understand'.
If water is unclear, colored or looks stale we prefilter.

2008-08-11, 09:38
..... the green apple splatters...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... now that had me laughing out loud.