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JAK
2009-01-31, 13:30
Someone mentioned that jute or hemp twine was useful tinder.

I tried it as a wick for vegetable oil and it works great.The idea is that vegetable oil can be carried as both food and fuel and as a fire starter or wood fuel booster for a small wood stove in cold weather. I also got the idea of twisting the twine with a wire to make a standing wick and that worked great also. Snare wire is heavier than it needed, but if you are carrying snare wire it will do. If you are carrying twine to do some biodegradable lashing the wick idea makes more sense also. Thought I would pass both ideas along.

I used a standing wick in a tealight tin in my tealight candle and it made a nice bright light. You have to be a little more careful not to spill. You take the glass out to fill it, and you can drop the glass back in before or after lighting it. The other thing I wanted was a small vegetable oil burner, the size of a tealight or ion stove, but no more than 1/2 oz of fuel at a time because it does get extremely hot and dangerous. Using a little snare wire and hemp or jute twine you can get a pretty good flame going without too much soot. It will be a slow long burn, but it is good at night when you are not in a hurry, and could be used in bad weather easier than a small wood stove. With some fiddling you should be able to get 1/2 oz to burn in about 30 minutes without too much soot, which at even 30% efficiency should heat up 450ml of water by 150degF, enough to make soup or oatmeal. I am going to try it with a small hobo type stove, or with the stuff from my ION stove.

atraildreamer
2009-01-31, 15:05
Someone mentioned that . . . hemp twine was useful tinder.



I love the smell of burning hemp in the morning! :aetsch::biggrin:
(With apologies to Marlon Brando...may he RIP.)

JAK
2009-02-01, 11:35
Well I did learn one thing. Pot barley, is NOT for smoking.

SGT Rock
2009-02-01, 12:06
?what?

EZ from NY
2009-02-01, 12:15
Used to carry a few feet of kreosole treated jute cord (marlin) in winter time for fire starter.

lucky luke
2009-02-02, 00:45
I love the smell of burning hemp in the morning! :aetsch::biggrin:
(With apologies to Marlon Brando...may he RIP.)


:bandit:

:biggrin:

greets
lucky luke

JAK
2009-02-03, 09:16
Used to carry a few feet of kreosole treated jute cord (marlin) in winter time for fire starter.Used to be able to buy some really good natural fibres, like cod line. The best hemp-like rope was something we used to call Manilla, as in the Phillipines, which was a major source at one time. The fibre was actually from abacá leaves. It was usually treated like you say, with some sort of tar or creosote.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_rope

Spruce root makes a really strong fibre in this neck of the woods,
but I am not sure what it would be like as a wick.

incognito
2009-02-04, 17:45
These are photos of of a burner that has 9 individual flames created by using fiberglass wick. This one has small flames and burns clean. The stove was made some time ago on WB. I have not done anything further with it. Keep the wick very short and it will burn without soot.

Boiled 2 cups of water in 19 1/2 min.

Alot of room for tweeking this stove.

I should be able to get it down to a 10 min. boil.

Burner weighs 56 grams with 1/4 inch of oil remaining in bottom of burner.

If you are not using wicks in your stoves, you;re not having fun!!!

No test was made to determine the amount of olive oil used(extra Virgin)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/vegiestove004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/vegiestove005.jpg

incognito
2009-02-04, 18:01
Here is a little kerosene stove that also burns olive oil. It requires alcohol to prime it. Onced primed it burns nice and clean.

How it's made in America (http://www.bplite.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=352&st=0&sk=t&sd=a)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/minikerosene023.jpg blowing on the flame makes it go bonkers, burns dirty in this mode.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/minikerosene021.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/minikerosene012.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/obijiwa/minikerosene008.jpg in the back is the generator from my alladin Heater. Plumbers cloth is used in the primer ring. Thanks Skids!!! ;) I use it. good stuff.

JAK
2009-02-06, 11:17
Great stuff zelph. Thanks.

incognito
2009-02-06, 22:38
Your welcome JAK. Your jute twine should work great as a wick. The idea of wraping a coil of wire around it sounds like it should do real well for it. Have 1/16" to 1/8" exposed and it should burn really clean.

The jute twine is multi use. Great firestarter ignited with a spark and used for it's intended purpose of lashing items together. = )

My uncle used manila rope to filter used motor for reuse. He used a large bucket to hold the used motor oil. The bucket was placed on a shelf in his garage. A three foot length of rope was weighted down inside the bucket at one end and then draped over the top edge of the bucket and let hang. Under the hanging end of the bucket he would place an empty bucket to cath the filtered oil as dripped of the end of the rope. Osmosis/cappilary action would transfer the oil from the bucket on the shelf to the awaiting bucket under the end of the manila rope.

JAK
2009-02-09, 15:53
That's a really neat idea also, the motor oil recycler.