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JAK
2010-06-18, 10:27
I came across the story of ......
Well, I will leave that for you to figure out.

If you were living in New York City in 1927, and wanted to escape to the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, what route would you take, and what sort of clothing and gear would you use?

Russell
2010-06-18, 10:56
I came across the story of ......
Well, I will leave that for you to figure out.

If you were living in New York City in 1927, and wanted to escape to the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, what route would you take, and what sort of clothing and gear would you use?

Who the fuck cares.

JAK
2010-06-18, 11:11
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JAK
2010-06-18, 11:28
Who the fuck cares.Well yeah, that was maybe her motivation and her intention, but ultimately she failed because now some crazy bisexual women are going to be making her famous with books and movies and even an oprah for crisakes.

Russell
2010-06-18, 11:30
Huh?

Ray
2010-06-18, 11:35
Huh?Oprah's bisexual?

JAK
2010-06-18, 11:46
Yeah I caught the same typo myself, but thought it was rather poetic, so I let it stand.

JAK
2010-06-18, 11:47
Do you guy's want any more hints?
It's an interesting story, but sad in a way that people are going to make a mess of it.
It's catchy because it is a sort of "LAST OF THE BREED" by Louis Lamour, but in reverse.

Gaiter
2010-06-18, 13:07
Do you guy's want any more hints?
It's an interesting story, but sad in a way that people are going to make a mess of it.
It's catchy because it is a sort of "LAST OF THE BREED" by Louis Lamour, but in reverse.

na don't care

JAK
2010-06-18, 13:17
Ah well, here it is then...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillian_Alling

I wish there was more to the story, but we will never know.

Superman
2010-06-18, 14:18
Ah well, here it is then...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillian_Alling

I wish there was more to the story, but we will never know.

So the story that no one cares about is over...yawn.:boring:

JAK
2010-06-18, 14:39
and so perhaps she was successful in not becoming too famous.

Interesting photo though. Nice looking dog, and axe.
Hard to say for sure, but not a bad looking woman either.

http://gorida.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/lillianalling.jpg

I found out about her through the topic of thru-hiking on wikipedia.

Kanga
2010-06-18, 15:10
she looks like an alien.

JAK
2010-06-18, 15:40
alien's are usually caught going in the other direction

Kanga
2010-06-18, 15:41
aaaahahahaha!

JAK
2010-06-18, 15:57
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqMG3VR5PP4

Whapmagoostui

I think it would be really cool to drive up north,
way up north to Labrador or Northern Quebec,
and then just keep walking or paddling or snowshoeing,
and not stop until my native woman falls in love with me,
or my supplies run out. Perhaps she lives in Whapmagoostui.

JAK
2010-06-18, 16:16
What I found odd was that she was supposed to be from Estonia. You would think that she would have tried to get their by ship, that being the case. I wonder if she also had relatives in Alaska, or something like that. I wonder where she got the idea of following the telegraph lines.

JAK
2010-06-18, 18:06
A good read here:

http://northword.ca/april-2010/lillians-long-walk

30 miles per day not too shabby


Some references to her here, on a website with much information on the Telegraph Trail...
http://www.telegraphtrail.org/history/section25.htm

The tenacious young woman had been given a dog by one of the linemen along the way and when it died, had carried the stuffed hide on top of her pack for the rest of the journey. No one seems to know if she ever got "home". She was last reported by an Eskimo who had seen her walking along the fog-shrouded coast of the Bering Sea, near where North America and Siberia are closest.
- F. Dickie, "British Columbia Digest", Dec. 1963

For a very good read, see pages 222-224
http://books.google.ca/books?id=TSLtYpkG-zwC&printsec=frontcover&dq=lillian+alling&source=bl&ots=mTOzUnOE7h&sig=_wL8Idc83mXAkjgioajXBw2hYCw&hl=en&ei=h-obTOqKDcSqlAeTtKHnDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CDsQ6AEwCThG#v=onepage&q=lillian%20alling&f=false

Ray
2010-06-19, 00:23
This is fascinating!

What else have you learned?!

Tin Man
2010-06-19, 02:51
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GGS
2010-06-20, 03:13
Interesting story. Stepping back from the whole thru hike thing for a moment... A news interview I heard some time ago talked about people who lived under socialism/ communism. Because that system chose your career for you and guaranteed you a job there was no need to be competitive as an employee, thus that was a skill the USSR residents didn't have when they came to the US. So I can see how someone with that background would struggle under a capitalistic society and would want to return to a system where the tough choices were made for them.

Now if this woman was in NY in 1927, and the socialist revolution took power in the USSR in 1917, whether that was an influence or not it's hard to tell. Could just be she was homesick and missed family.

gungho
2010-06-20, 03:21
Who the fuck cares.

dammit......you was channeling me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

GGS
2010-06-20, 03:30
What I found odd was that she was supposed to be from Estonia. You would think that she would have tried to get their by ship, that being the case. I wonder if she also had relatives in Alaska, or something like that. I wonder where she got the idea of following the telegraph lines.

...Kind of suggests to me that she was a few cans short of a 6-pack. Not thinking things through. As I recall, it was not possible to freely travel from one end of the USSR to the other due to checkpoints, needing papers, etc. Even if she made it across the Bering Strait her chances of thru hiking to Estonia were slim. But again in 1930 maybe it wasn't that restrictive.

JAK
2010-06-20, 20:11
I think it was very likely that she was somewhat deranged. Probably tougher and more resourceful than I could ever hope to be, but crazy. I picked up a woman hitchking once after she was pretty much thrown out of a truck, and her bags behind her. Wasn't too many miles later I saw the wisdom of the trucker's actions. It would be interesting to know more of the story, for real, but the whole truth isn't always the stuff that hollywood or even pullitzers are made of. Sounds like maybe she wasn't that far gone though. Who knows. Heck, if she had more money to begin with, or better fortune, or waited a few more years before getting too adventurous she might have ended up as famous as an Amilia Earhart or Mary Schaffer Warren, or at least Grandma Gatewood. Who's to say now? My hat goes off to her though, and all the other crossed-eyed Marys out there, whatever the whole truth may be.

http://vancouveropera.blogspot.com/2010/06/lillian-alling-clothes.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5SnRaWxfUA

Cross-Eyed Mary

Who would be a poor man, a beggarman, a thief --
if he had a rich man in his hand.
And who would steal the candy
from a laughing baby's mouth
if he could take it from the money man.
Cross-eyed Mary goes jumping in again.
She signs no contract
but she always plays the game.
Dines in Hampstead village
on expense accounted gruel,
and the jack-knife barber drops her off at school.
Laughing in the playground -- gets no kicks from little boys:
would rather make it with a letching grey.
Or maybe her attention is drawn by Aqualung,
who watches through the railings as they play.
Cross-eyed Mary finds it hard to get along.
She's a poor man's rich girl
and she'll do it for a song.
She's a rich man stealer
but her favour's good and strong:
She's the Robin Hood of Highgate --
helps the poor man get along.

GGS
2010-06-21, 17:53
My hat's off to her for hiking 30 miles a day. I did 16 miles in one day this summer, and couldn't walk straight for two days after!