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sojourner
2003-07-15, 06:14
I've backpacked a few times in Colorado, usually carrying around 45 pounds, and I have just recently started reading about ways to carry less weight. It makes so much sense to me and I'm ready to start assembling a new gear set. I'm weighing the possibilities and trying to formulate a plan. I need to make some decisions on my base equipment and I thought you guys might be able to offer some advice.

1) The pictures of the Hennessy Hammock make it look like you can't get totally horizontal when you sleep. Is this the case? I had to have a herniated disk in my back repaired and this sleeping position might not work for me, although getting off the ground sounds nice. Any thoughts?

2) It seems like the thing to do for a tarp is to just order the silnylon, cut it to the right size, insert some eyelits, and possibly make a few design alterations to fit your personal sensibilities. Is this process more difficult then I am imagining? Why would people pay the listed prices for the tarps I'm seeing on the net?

3) Do you guys have a per/day food weight that you shoot for?

4) Do quilts and blankets I'm seeing on the net have an advantage over a light weight, collapsable bag?

Anyway, It's great to be here. Not quite as nice as being on a trail, but thanks for posting stuff that helps me to get excited about and ready for the trail.

DebW
2003-07-15, 12:24
Originally posted by sojourner

2) It seems like the thing to do for a tarp is to just order the silnylon, cut it to the right size, insert some eyelits, and possibly make a few design alterations to fit your personal sensibilities. Is this process more difficult then I am imagining? Why would people pay the listed prices for the tarps I'm seeing on the net?



Silnylon only comes in 5 foot wide sections, so an 8x10 foot tarp requires you to sew a center seam in a waterproof fashion and then seam seal it, plus hem the edges and install grommets or pulltabs. I put one together in about 3 hours (not counting the seam sealing) and for about $50. Use all polyester thread and the special silicon seam sealer.

Sgathak
2003-07-15, 14:44
Ahhhhh.... questions for Geardo's :D

1) Im not a huge fan of hennessy hammocks, but have used some Mayan hammocks which allow for the same diagonal "level"... it works, though its not perfectly flat. However, hammock use among the back ailment afflicted has been known to fix more problems than create.

2) Silnylon is easy to make stuff with if your good at sewing. However, if your not, its an easy way to make a mess of things. Usually Silnylon tarps have been designed by people who have used them a bit, its hard to design your own tarp if youve had limited exposure to tarp designs and their pros and cons

3) No... but I never seen food as "weight". I take what I need, and if that powerbar puts me over some mythical weight limit, oh well. Id rather have it and not need it.

4) Like all things, they have advantages and disadvantages. In one windy night I came across a group of 3 hikers whos "go faster" handmade quilts had ALL been blown up into the trees and one was literally crying because he was so cold. Now, this can be accounted for by the other mistakes they made (there were plenty) but you never have to worry that your sleeping bag will blow away in the night.

foo
2003-07-15, 16:11
Sgathak:

You write:

In one windy night I came across a group of 3 hikers

Where was this?

Sgathak
2003-07-15, 16:17
On the Uncampagre Plataue...

foo
2003-07-15, 16:34
Sgathak,

What was the elevation, temperature, and season?

foo
2003-07-15, 17:52
Sgathak,

What was the elevation, temperature, and season?

sojourner
2003-07-15, 18:34
Thanks foo, Deb, and Sgathak.

Deb, do you think that if I don't have any experience sewing or working with silnylon that it's worth the cost just to buy one of these tarps that I've seen online?

Sgathak, I've hiked in the valley between Uncampagre, Matterhorn, and Wettorhorn. We drove up the forrest road from Lake City and then packed in to the valley. We climbed Wetterhorn and Matterhorn, but not Uncampagre. I sure did like the how Uncompagre looked from that view. Have you ever hiked in to Sunlight Peak from the Durango/Silverton train? I'm thinking about making this my next trip. It lookslike parking our cars on opposite ends, coming into Chicago basin from Needleton, and leaving towards the Purgatory trailhead. Any info?

Sgathak
2003-07-15, 19:01
Originally posted by foo
Sgathak,

What was the elevation, temperature, and season?

Elevation. Dunno. Couple thou but then I didnt check my altimeter

Temp. Cold at night, 70s during the day.

Season. as I recall, it was late fall. but may have been spring. It was a few years ago.

Sgathak
2003-07-15, 19:23
I spent most of my time in the northern sections of the pleateau... Tabaguache trail, Unaweep canyon, etc. I also tend to bushwack a bit so just rambled... I grew up in Grand Junction so would hike from the National Monument, across Glade park, and down into the plateau. So, most of my experience is from Mesa county heading south, not Ouray County heading north.

That being said, Wetterhorn and Matterhorn are great climbs... Uncampahgre is also phenominal and if you get a chance to climb it... do it. Its worth it.

Sorry... I dont have enough familiarity with the location your wanting to go to... but I do know the area is beautiful and any route is a good one :)

snowsurfin951
2003-07-19, 21:03
I also have had back problems and I'm more comfortable in my hennessy than in my tent. Sleeping on my left side in the HH seems to be the easiest. I can sleep on my right side but rolling over in the HH took some getting used to. If I am not with my wife, then it's the hammock for me.

My back is usually pretty sore after a night in the tent. No problems after a night in the Hennessey.

sojourner
2003-07-24, 02:11
Thanks so much for all the info so far. Here's a follow up question. Hopefully some of you wonderful folks will scroll down far enough to see it.

Why use a quilt or blanket with the HH? Wouldn't it be better to have a bag when you are off of the ground? Aren't you going to need to have your underside covered by something other than the hammock?

Please feel free to offer any more info regarding my original questions as well. Any help at all is greatly appreciated.

RangerDan
2003-08-06, 05:29
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