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SGT Rock
2012-04-10, 10:44
Have y'all seen this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnwIKZhrdt4&feature=related

I wonder what corn beer tastes like?

Crikey
2012-04-10, 14:23
I wonder what corn beer tastes like?

We had chicha in Cusco before we did the Inca trail. It was sweet and somewhat milky in substance. Not very strong.

SGT Rock
2012-04-10, 14:45
Not like corn liquor?

Looks like you can make a non-alcoholic corn drink:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/robert-irvine/sweet-milk-and-corn-drink-atole-recipe/index.html

On the barefoot running. I get foot injuries easy, and someone recently recommended I look into this stuff. Seems like a recipe for injury unless you work into it.

JERMM
2012-04-10, 15:00
i started wearing minimalist shoes last July when i had the torn achilles tendon, since then i haven't had any problems with my sciatica and that had become an everyday thing, i was developing plantars fasciitis in my right foot that is completely gone, i'm less fatigued at the end of the day and i haven't turned either of my ankles. I wear minimalist shoes as my everyday shoe and when backpacking. I'm a believer based on my personal experience.

chumpchange
2012-04-10, 15:02
yeah well, let's see him walk across a gravel parking lot.

that's pretty amaizing.

sheepdog
2012-04-10, 15:06
i started wearing minimalist shoes last July when i had the torn achilles tendon, since then i haven't had any problems with my sciatica and that had become an everyday thing, i was developing plantars fasciitis in my right foot that is completely gone, i'm less fatigued at the end of the day and i haven't turned either of my ankles. I wear minimalist shoes as my everyday shoe and when backpacking. I'm a believer based on my personal experience.

what about stone bruises to the bottom of your feet??

Big Mac
2012-04-10, 15:11
i started wearing minimalist shoes last July when i had the torn achilles tendon, since then i haven't had any problems with my sciatica and that had become an everyday thing, i was developing plantars fasciitis in my right foot that is completely gone, i'm less fatigued at the end of the day and i haven't turned either of my ankles. I wear minimalist shoes as my everyday shoe and when backpacking. I'm a believer based on my personal experience.

Minimalist shoes? Are you a socialist?

SGT Rock
2012-04-10, 15:12
What shoe are you using Jermm? I've looked at a few and I'm not sure what I am looking for. I personally think the toe shoes look rather silly and would want something I could keep using socks with in cold weather, so I have looked at stuff like the NB Minimus, the NB MT10 & MT20, and the Merrell Trail Glove.

sheepdog
2012-04-10, 15:14
I wunner if you could dip you feet in that stuff they use for members mark??

Big Mac
2012-04-10, 15:14
Makers mark?

Crikey
2012-04-10, 15:15
This weekend, up on the MST near Craggy, I asked a guy wearing Five Fingers on how he liked hiking in them. He hated it.

chumpchange
2012-04-10, 15:16
i've heard of bird hunters putting super-glue on their dogs' pads to help keep them from getting roughed up.

Cuffs
2012-04-10, 15:18
Rock, try Merrell's. http://www.merrell.com/US/en/Barefoot_Collection

I have several pair and love them! Between them and the fivefingers (toe shoes) my foot and calf strength has increased alot. And as Jermm points out, alot of alignment issues (ankle, knee, hip, spine...) disappear too.

sheepdog
2012-04-10, 15:21
Makers mark?

sorry I like beer.

SGT Rock
2012-04-10, 15:24
Rock, try Merrell's. http://www.merrell.com/US/en/Barefoot_Collection

I have several pair and love them! Between them and the fivefingers (toe shoes) my foot and calf strength has increased alot. And as Jermm points out, alot of alignment issues (ankle, knee, hip, spine...) disappear too.Yea, that is me. I've always had goofy feet and they almost kept me out of the Army. I have had shin splints, stress fractures, plantar fasciitus, and constant ankle injuries - it got me off the trail in '08.

Merrell trail glove is one I have been eyeballin' close. A review I read said they fit like Salomons and I love the fit and breath-ability of my Salomons, but I would love to lose the ankle braces and just wear running socks again.

Big Mac
2012-04-10, 15:50
sorry I like beer.

Me too, but I'm closer to Kentucky than you.

saimyoji
2012-04-10, 16:17
does anyone else have a problem spending $100 on shoes, or am i just a cheap bastard?

Cuffs
2012-04-10, 16:18
Yea, that is me. I've always had goofy feet and they almost kept me out of the Army. I have had shin splints, stress fractures, plantar fasciitus, and constant ankle injuries - it got me off the trail in '08.

Merrell trail glove is one I have been eyeballin' close. A review I read said they fit like Salomons and I love the fit and breath-ability of my Salomons, but I would love to lose the ankle braces and just wear running socks again.

they are close to but not really alot like Salomon's... (have several different pairs of those too... go figure) Be sure to try them on, their sizing is a tad off from regular footwear. I do wear a thin sock with them, just to prevent any hotspots, so be sure to try on with a sock of course, if thats how you'll wear them.

Big Mac
2012-04-10, 16:21
does anyone else have a problem spending $100 on shoes, or am i just a cheap bastard?

Yes . . .

saimyoji
2012-04-10, 16:25
Yes . . .

to which part?

Cuffs
2012-04-10, 16:27
does anyone else have a problem spending $100 on shoes, or am i just a cheap bastard?

Its just you. Ive learned that I need my feet to feel good and keep going. Cheap shoes dont cut it. I will spend whats needed to keep them happy and feeling great!

Hikerhead
2012-04-10, 16:31
does anyone else have a problem spending $100 on shoes, or am i just a cheap bastard?

I do. Me no like. It could be just going to the store that sucks.

SGT Rock
2012-04-10, 17:15
they are close to but not really alot like Salomon's... (have several different pairs of those too... go figure) Be sure to try them on, their sizing is a tad off from regular footwear. I do wear a thin sock with them, just to prevent any hotspots, so be sure to try on with a sock of course, if thats how you'll wear them.Thanks for the advice. Helps to have people you know and trust telling you rather than some teenager at a box store.

I went to my local outfitters where the people know what they are talking about (not some big box store) and luckily they carried the Merrells. I looked at a couple of different models and ended up with the Trail Glove version because they seemed to ventilate better. You were absolutely right on the sizing, I ended up a half size smaller than normal. Both guys there are people I trust to know what they are talking about, they both had tried a version of the shoe since Merrell gave everyone in the store a gift certificate for a free pair so both of them had experience wearing the shoe. I'm going to do some treadmill work and local hikes with them to break into them. I'm thinking my hike next week I will bring these as well as my normal foot gear so I can spend some time on the trail in them, but not be stuck wearing them full time until I am totally use to them. I hope that after 2 weeks and 160 miles I might be comfortable with them for my main trail shoe without braces and such.

Crikey
2012-04-10, 17:24
When I did my hike in 83 my feet went from standard D to a 2E. It wasn't until a few years ago that I could find Merrells that fit. I hike in the Moab Ventilator. The discount store in Asheville has them for 70 bucks as opposed to 90 anywhere online, so this weekend I bought a couple of pairs.

Don't screw with your feet - when you find a shoe that works, stick with it.

SGT Rock
2012-04-10, 17:30
I agree except the good shoes I found were some New Balance trail runners they quit making many years ago. Since then I've been searching. I've tried some other NB trail shoes and none are quite the same. I had the same experience with running shoes and Nike. They changed the design of the Air Pegasus about 10 years ago and they have never been right sense.

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Cuffs
2012-04-10, 17:36
I have the Trail Glove and the Pace Glove. I carry the Pace as my camp shoe. small and light... doubles as a back up hiking shoe if ever needed.

Big Mac
2012-04-10, 17:50
does anyone else have a problem spending $100 on shoes, or am i just a cheap bastard?

I'm not paying that much for shoes, but I've never had a problem with my feet. I currently hike in Asics trail runners I paid about 50 bucks for. I love them, and have never had a blister.

john pickett
2012-04-10, 17:53
On the subject of actually running barefoot, I tried that one summer; 1967 if I remember right. (It's a long time ago.) I was working on a small farm and wanted to build my endurance. The only athletic shoes available then (in the Texas panhandle) were Keds with a solid rubber sole. They hurt so I began running barefoot. After about 4 weeks I developed a tear in the sole of my foot, between the great and second toes.
I should add I was running on an asphalt road. Never went shoeless again.

SGT Rock
2012-04-10, 17:53
It would be nice to have more normal feet. I had to get a waiver to get in the Army and ended up with a VA disability for my feet when I got out. I figure some of that VA money was to buy good shoes for my feet. I've had nothing but trouble with feet since I was 10, and of all things I decide I like doing it happens to be backpacking for many miles at a time.

JERMM
2012-04-10, 18:02
what about stone bruises to the bottom of your feet??

I haven't had any so far


What shoe are you using Jermm? I've looked at a few and I'm not sure what I am looking for. I personally think the toe shoes look rather silly and would want something I could keep using socks with in cold weather, so I have looked at stuff like the NB Minimus, the NB MT10 & MT20, and the Merrell Trail Glove.


Rock I started out wearing the NB MT10, I'm now wearing a Merrell Trail Glove. During to cold months I put a cheap pair of foam insoles in them for more insulation, it's the flat thin foam kind so it didn't change anything about the shoe. Another shoes are Altra and Inov-8, I haven't tried these yet

a couple of blogs you might be interesting in reading

http://www.toesalad.com/

http://www.barefootjake.com/

Cuffs
2012-04-10, 18:15
I'm not paying that much for shoes, but I've never had a problem with my feet. I currently hike in Asics trail runners I paid about 50 bucks for. I love them, and have never had a blister.

theres more to good shoes that just not getting blisters. The arch should be supported at the calcaneal shelf not the arch itself. this starts and keeps the foot/ankle/knee/hip/back in line. you dont start out straight, you dont end up straight... good shoes support the shelf. A toe box that actually fits the toes and does not cause them to curl under.

Not getting blisters, that just a bonus.

Cuffs
2012-04-10, 18:18
Inov-8 is primarily for trail running. the forefoot sole is similar to cleats. Because of their popularity with trail runners, they have been flying off the shelves for the last year. Might be a tad more difficult to find the size / model you are looking for. But a great shoe if you do find the one that works for you.

Big Mac
2012-04-10, 18:27
theres more to good shoes that just not getting blisters. The arch should be supported at the calcaneal shelf not the arch itself. this starts and keeps the foot/ankle/knee/hip/back in line. you dont start out straight, you dont end up straight... good shoes support the shelf. A toe box that actually fits the toes and does not cause them to curl under.

Not getting blisters, that just a bonus.

Yeah, yeah - never had any problems I don't need $100 shoes

Big Mac
2012-04-10, 18:27
I'm just lucky I guess

mudhead
2012-04-10, 18:28
does anyone else have a problem spending $100 on shoes, or am i just a cheap bastard?

Holabird Sports.

I went from NB to Asics. Foundation is wider in the toe box than a 2100 series, just fyi. Both are wider than a NB, in a 12 4E.

SGT Rock
2012-04-10, 18:28
Rock I started out wearing the NB MT10, I'm now wearing a Merrell Trail Glove. During to cold months I put a cheap pair of foam insoles in them for more insulation, it's the flat thin foam kind so it didn't change anything about the shoe. Another shoes are Altra and Inov-8, I haven't tried these yet

a couple of blogs you might be interesting in reading

http://www.toesalad.com/

http://www.barefootjake.com/
Thanks, I'm going to go look at them now.


theres more to good shoes that just not getting blisters. The arch should be supported at the calcaneal shelf not the arch itself. this starts and keeps the foot/ankle/knee/hip/back in line. you dont start out straight, you dont end up straight... good shoes support the shelf. A toe box that actually fits the toes and does not cause them to curl under.

Not getting blisters, that just a bonus.

I've pretty much figured out how to not get blisters with almost any shoe. Just pay attention to hot spots and such. But this talk about calcaneal shelf is new to me.

So Jermm and/or Cuffs. How soon after starting before you switched over to barefoot style shoes totally and any suggestions for getting use to them? I'm wearing them around the house now and I can say that since I heard about barefoot running I have tried practicing that, but with these shoes it sort of seems to push you to that stride.

And as an aside, my wife commented that she has always walked like I am now. She thinks women that learn to walk in heels have already been practicing something like this more than men ever would.

SGT Rock
2012-04-10, 18:34
I have the Trail Glove and the Pace Glove. I carry the Pace as my camp shoe. small and light... doubles as a back up hiking shoe if ever needed.

Have you thought about huaraches? I think HOI was making some at the Bash. Looks like a lot of barefoot folks use those.

Skidsteer
2012-04-10, 18:51
I'm just lucky I guess

There are a few of us like that and we are lucky.

I could hike in cowboy boots if I wanted to.

Big Mac
2012-04-10, 18:54
There are a few of us like that and we are lucky.

I could hike in cowboy boots if I wanted to.

But would you pay a hunnert for them?

JERMM
2012-04-10, 18:57
So Jermm and/or Cuffs. How soon after starting before you switched over to barefoot style shoes totally and any suggestions for getting use to them? I'm wearing them around the house now and I can say that since I heard about barefoot running I have tried practicing that, but with these shoes it sort of seems to push you to that stride.

And as an aside, my wife commented that she has always walked like I am now. She thinks women that learn to walk in heels have already been practicing something like this more than men ever would.[/QUOTE]

Rock I wore flip flops most of the time so the transition for me was very fast. It was recommend that I not wear the minimalist shoe more than an hour or so for the first day or so then slowly wear them more. Keep in mind you are changing the way you walk and stand, everything about your feet, ankles, knees, legs, hips and back need time to adjust to the new alignment

one of my hiking partners recently switched to minimalist shoes, she suffered with extreme knee pain prior to switching. We day hiked together last month, when we got back to the car after 11 miles in north GA, she said that was the first time she had hiked in years w/o pain.

SGT Rock
2012-04-10, 19:01
There are a few of us like that and we are lucky.

I could hike in cowboy boots if I wanted to.Ouch. Cowboy boots when I was 10 were my first bout with plantar fasciitus. They didn't call it that back then, at that time it was just arch pain. I've got high arches and back then the recommendation was shoes with high arch support. Then when I was experiencing running pain problems in the Army the recommendation was a cushion sole which seemed to help with the pain but not necessarily the injuries. I've turned ankles all the time, most of the time on flat ground of all things. And some of the worst have been with "real boots".

Skidsteer
2012-04-10, 19:02
But would you pay a hunnert for them?

Only if they come with those silver toe covers. Engraved.

SGT Rock
2012-04-10, 19:04
Rock I wore flip flops most of the time so the transition for me was very fast. It was recommend that I not wear the minimalist shoe more than an hour or so for the first day or so then slowly wear them more. Keep in mind you are changing the way you walk and stand, everything about your feet, ankles, knees, legs, hips and back need time to adjust to the new alignment

one of my hiking partners recently switched to minimalist shoes, she suffered with extreme knee pain prior to switching. We day hiked together last month, when we got back to the car after 11 miles in north GA, she said that was the first time she had hiked in years w/o pain.

I usually go barefoot around the house, but my wife always accuses me of stomping around the house, so I probably don't walk right even without shoes. Since I put these on today she has remarked that I don't stomp around anymore. It is taking getting use to, it feels like learning to walk again.

SGT Rock
2012-04-10, 19:06
Only if they come with those silver toe covers. Engraved.

http://www.outbackleather.com/images/T/6770-01.jpeg

Hog On Ice
2012-04-10, 19:06
100 for the shoes is nothing compared to the 300 for the inserts - fortunately the inserts have outlasted the shoes but it is getting time to consider getting my feet recast and new inserts made

JERMM
2012-04-10, 19:10
I usually go barefoot around the house, but my wife always accuses me of stomping around the house, so I probably don't walk right even without shoes. Since I put these on today she has remarked that I don't stomp around anymore. It is taking getting use to, it feels like learning to walk again.

Rock after you get used to them just wait until you have to wear high heel shoes...you'll think you're going to die and wish you could...lol

when I went dow to Cumberland Island I walked on the beach carrying my pack and bare footed for seven miles, that evening and next morning I felt fine, used to I would have been aching from my toes to lower back even not wearing a pack.

Cuffs
2012-04-10, 19:16
The thing I noticed remarkably was the finer muscles in the shin area were working more, got a little sore at first.

Jermm is right, wear them a little at a time. Get out in the yard, uneven surfaces. (watch your toes still). You'll work different muscles by getting off the flat floors.

Heels for ladies was the worst invention for feet ever made. Feet were not made to walk like that. Some toe walking is normal but 4" stilettos is not.

JERMM
2012-04-10, 19:22
before i get on the trail in July (i hope) i want to try the Inov8 Bare-Grip 200, the luggier sole looks good. Most models and brands currently out there don't have soles that are grippy on wet muddy trails.

JERMM
2012-04-10, 19:23
The thing I noticed remarkably was the finer muscles in the shin area were working more, got a little sore at first.

Jermm is right, wear them a little at a time. Get out in the yard, uneven surfaces. (watch your toes still). You'll work different muscles by getting off the flat floors.

Heels for ladies was the worst invention for feet ever made. Feet were not made to walk like that. Some toe walking is normal but 4" stilettos is not.

exactly, i went out to the park and walked horse trail and dry creek beds

SGT Rock
2012-04-10, 19:29
I will say that years ago when I tried superfeet my feet after an hour were sore like I beat on them with a hammer. So far nothing like that with the Trail Gloves. I'm going to take them up to Look Rock (http://www.nature.nps.gov/air/webcams/parks/grsmcam/grsmcam.cfm) tomorrow. It's right out behind my house and the trail is only about 1/2 mile one way. Maybe Thursday I'll take them up something longer.

Tin Man
2012-04-10, 21:04
i like my keens. bought 'em, walked around the house one night, then straight to 50 miles of AT across the presidential's. no issues at all. love 'em

Cuffs
2012-04-10, 21:29
Yak n I just did a nice evening walk around City Park, 3.5 miles, I wore the fivefingers (Treksports ) No problems.

SGT Rock
2012-04-11, 11:52
Progress report.

Yesterday I wore the shoes all day, at the end of the day there was a little discomfort in my feet, but nothing worse than any other time I start with new shoes.

Today I got up and put them on. A little residual ache from yesterday, nothing worth bothering over. Then I went up to Look Rock which is only a 1/2 mile walk with 200' of elevation gain not counting the tower (probably 250' with the tower). About half way up my calves were screaming like I hadn't experienced in a long time. Holy shit that was only 1/4 mile and about 100' up. I took a couple of short stops in place while climbing the second half. Coming down there wasn't any issues. My stride is starting to feel natural, but if I don't think about it, I start landing on my heel. You ain't shittin' when you say you shouldn't start a long hike without getting use to these. I would hate to do 10 miles and 4,000' of gain in these things at this point.

Cuffs
2012-04-11, 11:57
I dont usually feel it in the calves, but along the muscles that lie along the tibia/shin... then again, theres not much elevation down here...

SGT Rock
2012-04-11, 12:01
I dont usually feel it in the calves, but along the muscles that lie along the tibia/shin... then again, theres not much elevation down here...

Good to know.

Years ago I had a lot of that sort of problem. I learned some good stretches and exercises so I could get back into running since it was part of the job. Anyhow, after a year or so of working at it I generally don't have shin pain even after many many miles of hiking or running. I figured I must have strengthened some of those muscles over time of working at it. Of course I haven't been running like I did pre-retirement and there is always the chance it could come back. I'm hoping to keep strengthening my ankles so I can keep from repeating what I went through in '08. I have been in a lighter brace for years but even last trip in the Smokys a couple of weeks back I rolled it again.

Law Dawg (ret)
2012-04-11, 13:48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvXTEYZtK10

Crikey
2012-04-11, 13:53
I learned some good stretches and exercises so I could get back into running since it was part of the job. Anyhow, after a year or so of working at it I generally don't have shin pain even after many many miles of hiking or running. I figured I must have strengthened some of those muscles over time of working at it. Of course I haven't been running like I did pre-retirement and there is always the chance it could come back.

Keeping limbered up is key. I run about 6 miles a day, I find that if I stretch daily I'm not as sore.

A few years ago I learned a hard lesson, I went running over Christmas after having just being on an elliptical for a couple of months. Did it without stretching much. Ended up with severe pain in my foot, which oddly enough turned out to be caused by an inflamed tendon in my calf. Go figure.

Tin Man
2012-04-11, 14:07
Keeping limbered up is key. I run about 6 miles a day, I find that if I stretch daily I'm not as sore.

A few years ago I learned a hard lesson, I went running over Christmas after having just being on an elliptical for a couple of months. Did it without stretching much. Ended up with severe pain in my foot, which oddly enough turned out to be caused by an inflamed tendon in my calf. Go figure.

nerves from the spine on down and around can affect pain centers in the extremities and such

Crikey
2012-04-11, 14:15
nerves from the spine on down and around can affect pain centers in the extremities and such

No doubt! I could barely walk.

SGT Rock
2012-04-11, 14:16
What was funny was not only were my calves a little burned, but so what my lower back.

JERMM
2012-04-11, 14:52
progress report.

Yesterday i wore the shoes all day, at the end of the day there was a little discomfort in my feet, but nothing worse than any other time i start with new shoes.

Today i got up and put them on. A little residual ache from yesterday, nothing worth bothering over. Then i went up to look rock which is only a 1/2 mile walk with 200' of elevation gain not counting the tower (probably 250' with the tower). About half way up my calves were screaming like i hadn't experienced in a long time. Holy shit that was only 1/4 mile and about 100' up. i took a couple of short stops in place while climbing the second half. Coming down there wasn't any issues. My stride is starting to feel natural, but if i don't think about it, i start landing on my heel. You ain't shittin' when you say you shouldn't start a long hike without getting use to these. I would hate to do 10 miles and 4,000' of gain in these things at this point.


no sniveling!

Tin Man
2012-04-11, 14:54
No doubt! I could barely walk.


What was funny was not only were my calves a little burned, but so what my lower back.

a good chiro can help or steer you in the right direction

JERMM
2012-04-11, 14:59
a good chiro can help or steer you in the right direction

all he needs to do is give it time and his body will adjust, don't need no stinkin chiro

SGT Rock
2012-04-11, 15:13
I may go up and hit it again today. Next time I'll try not to snivel.

Tin Man
2012-04-11, 15:24
all he needs to do is give it time and his body will adjust, don't need no stinkin chiro

agreed, as long as it adjusts itself...

Crikey
2012-04-11, 16:00
I may go up and hit it again today. Next time I'll try not to snivel.

Going back to Look Rock? Lucky dog to have it in your backyard. I just make do with this:

http://www.nature.nps.gov/air/webcams/parks/grsmcam/grsmcam.cfm

SGT Rock
2012-04-11, 16:41
If I could get up to the locked part I could wave at y'all.

SGT Rock
2012-04-11, 18:26
Just got back. Getting better at this... But trying to keep up with a 14YO while learning to walk all over again looked like Monty Python's Ministry of Silly Walks skit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w

southmark
2012-04-11, 20:04
Well after reading the posts on this thread I got up the nerve to try my KSO Trekers on trails. I just got back from a 5.5 mile hike on the multi-use trails at a local park. I now have muscles that I did not know I had. I also discovered one negative of wearing toe shoes on trails… if you stump your toe on a root, it can take you out of action.

Ewker
2012-04-11, 20:51
Well after reading the posts on this thread I got up the nerve to try my KSO Trekers on trails. I just got back from a 5.5 mile hike on the multi-use trails at a local park. I now have muscles that I did not know I had. I also discovered one negative of wearing toe shoes on trails… if you stump your toe on a root, it can take you out of action.

I know a guy who broke his big toe wearing some name brand of toe shoes while hiking into the Walls of Jericho. I do enough damage in trail runners or boots so no need to improve my chances of doing more damage

SGT Rock
2012-04-11, 21:24
I ran into a guy last year hiking in toe shoes. Word was he switched to boots at Neels Gap.

southmark
2012-04-11, 23:04
I don't think the toe shoes are a good idea on the trail, not for me at least. They are really comfortable for smooth surfaces like walks around the neighborhood. I have enough feet problems without adding broken toes to the mix.

Cuffs
2012-04-12, 01:10
They are not made for longevity as noted by their short warranty period. 90 days. Seriously.

southmark
2012-04-12, 09:18
@Cuffs, are you referring to my feet or the shoes? :)

JERMM
2012-04-12, 09:50
They are not made for longevity as noted by their short warranty period. 90 days. Seriously.


sounds just like a section hiker

Crikey
2012-04-12, 09:52
I don't think the toe shoes are a good idea on the trail, not for me at least. They are really comfortable for smooth surfaces like walks around the neighborhood. I have enough feet problems without adding broken toes to the mix.

Yeah, I mentioned earlier talking to a guy wearing FiveFingers hiking on the MST. He was just out for a day hike, I don't think he had gotten very far and was turning back. He said it sucked.

Tin Man
2012-04-12, 10:21
sounds just like a section hiker

not that there is anything wrong with that :aetsch:

SGT Rock
2012-04-12, 11:38
My feet are a little sore today. Nothing bad. Maybe I should go for another walk.

Law Dawg (ret)
2012-04-12, 13:24
So maybe there's another reason them Mexican Indians run...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C9Yqg13j0E

Oh and the toe shoes take some real getting used to and do feel almost as good as barefoot....almost. But wear them on a trail!?:bird: Mine do work well for warm weather wading while fishing...just not along any trail to get there.

JERMM
2012-04-12, 13:27
not that there is anything wrong with that :aetsch:

section hikers rock

Tin Man
2012-04-12, 13:37
section hikers rock

you got that right :top:

can't wait to do another 30 in PA next week. oh yeah!

SGT Rock
2012-04-12, 16:17
I just did an easy 0.8 with a pack on.

Streetdoc432
2012-04-14, 13:47
I've had my Vibram 5 Finger shoes for 2 years now, hiked 35 miles in em, I've run two 5k's in them too. When running, you are actually causing micro fractures in the bones, which heal, making your bones stronger than before.
I highly recommend them! I work 12 to 16 hour shifts at the hospital in them, and haven't had any back pain since I started wearing them, and I have tried all kinds of high dollar shoes.

SGT Rock
2012-04-15, 20:17
Micro fractures? That could be a bad thing if you are walking 25 miles a day, there could be more micro fractures than there is healing going on.

chumpchange
2012-04-16, 00:01
we need some corn beer.