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Pappyhighlife
2003-09-24, 16:37
Thanks for the e-mails. I know long term and short term supply is a problem. This is what works for me. Cuts the pack weight.

Back in the late Seventies some survivalist type came up with an idea for food and water storage in a PVC pipe. We jusy call them Bazooka's.

Just go to your local home improvement store and buy the largest diameter PCV pipe they sell 3 to 5 feet long, I normally use the six inch round tube. have it threaded on both ends. Take it home and figure out how many compartments you will need then cut six inch pieces of the thickest cardboard you can find, for as many compartments that you will need.
Seal one end of the pipe with an end cap, first use teflon tape to waterproof the seals.
Now figure out what your re-supply needs are. I have filled our Bazooka's with all kinds of stuff, food, water,those female hygene things that have wings, clean clothes film ammo or any luxsury items you may not want to carry. Separate each component with the cardboard circles, and seal the remaining cap waterproofing again.

Next we figure out which trail we project to be humping and use the weekends in between to plant our Bazooka's at various parts of the trail. If we enter a trailhead on the north end, we will spend a day or even a couple of nights seeding the south trailhead, you can also drive to the various towns along the trail some weekend and take a day hike to plant your Bazooka. The hiking and digging are good workouts in between trips. I try to dig my tube trench at least 16 to 18 inches deep to be below the frost line. I have had and currently have tubes I planted nearly two years ago NC SC GA. (the M.R.E can last five years or more in cool storage)They do not damage the environment, after digging up the tube you just fill the hole back in.

You might ask Pappy how do I find my Bazooka's at night. Well, fear not my friend aside from my map where they are planted, I break bike red reflectors into small pieces and drill a hole in them enough to drive a small tack nail through them, and tack them to the some of the trees we will be walking towards.I start at about a thousand yards from where I planted the tubes. My headlamp or flashlight will pick up the reflections, and I pull them out as I go.

I started using the Bazooka back in 95 during the start of the five year Carolina drought. In the Wharrie National Forest to store water as even in a good year its hard to find water in the Wharrie. If the water is older than three months iodine it first and re-aerate it by mixing it as old water can taste flat. It stays pretty cold if you keep it under the frost line. Have fun with it, they are easy to make and pack. Let the kids carry them, by the time they grow up they'll forget the hump anyway <<...>>

Streamweaver
2003-09-24, 23:42
So are you saying that "leave no trace" doesnt apply to you??? Have you ever stopped to ask a ranger what he/she thinks of you going around digging up the place and tacking peices of junk to the trees??
burying luxury items?? How about ,if you cant carry it ,you dont need it ,leave it home!! Streamweaver

chief
2003-09-25, 00:14
ditto!!!

Pappyhighlife
2003-09-25, 14:07
Well, you must have missed the part where we said it does not hurt the environment, and the reflectors are smaller than a thumb tack. They are not nails. We also retrieve them as we go. there are no holes left in the ground. the sites are restored to the exact status they were, they damage nothing. unsightly trashed filled fire rings, and the paper and plastic message notes left nailed to our tree's by groups passing are far worse than anything we bury 50 to hundred feet off any trail, and restore. Your point is moot.

Sgathak
2003-09-25, 20:51
I wouldnt call the point "moot".

Around here (where I live), leave no trace is a fairly big deal... but its not the be all and end all of things. Many of the places I go to are so remote that any damage I may do is likely to be repaired by nature long before anyone else finds it. Thats not an excuse, its just the way things are. Thats not to say that LNT practices arnt followed, but a well placed and maintained campfire will no longer exist to even the seasoned eye by the time the next guy comes within 400 yards of where I made camp.

In the same way, a small tack put into a tree is FAR less harmful than a ax blaze, and even less harmful than the designted trail markers that are spiked into the tree (and replaced every 3 years at lower - eye - levels)

However, Burying 5 foot long chunks of PVC is a different matter. Especially in areas close enough to civilization as to have a road near by but even then, situation may make it "ok" to some extent.

My question is what do you do with these large peices of PVC when they are empty? You mentioned the shelf life of MRE's... that makes me think these are buried for quite a while. Also, wouldnt it be more prudent, in the long run, to do without "luxury items" and carry only what you need - and no more?

Pappyhighlife
2003-09-26, 11:02
Very good questions, first I want to make it clear that I always practice L.N.T. I doubt anyone could locate a buried tube except me. Looking for a tube would be like looking for a needle in a haystack, its simply not going to happen. The tubes have never been compremised.This program was designed to protect the tube, therefore leaving any indication it's there is counter productive (theft or damage)
As I said the tubes can be cut three to five feet. Five feet is really for home storage in an urban setting for disasters, I prefer to cut mine 24 to 40 inches depending what they will be used for.

When empty the tube is about as heavy as a closed cell sleeping pad.
I normally strap it to the side of my ruck and use it to store trash while on my way out. When solo the most I have taken out is two.
I aparrently made an error on the luxury items. In my part of the world luxury items are clean underware replacement items that may wear out on the trail, not microwaves or battery operated TVs. the Bazzooka is designed for long term excursions, not weekend treks.

Finally I was responding to four e-mails I received, the post was easier than writing individual reply's. I thought that was what the posts are for. I did'nt invent this system it has been around for decades used by hunters, hikers, miners and even bikers.

chief
2003-09-26, 14:14
Originally posted by Pappyhighlife
I did'nt invent this system it has been around for decades used by hunters, hikers, miners and even bikers.
Should be easy to find, just follow the beer cans.

Streamweaver
2003-09-26, 14:55
Pappy, you are contradicting yourself!! First you say you practice LNT then you talk about going around digging holes in the ground and tacking peices of plastic to trees. IT dont matter if they never find what you buried ,digging that hole in the first place is against LNT practices!! Streamweaver

Pappyhighlife
2003-09-29, 12:31
Okie Dokie....

Chief, like the beer can thing.. <<...>>