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SGT Rock
2012-12-07, 09:37
I've been putting together a play list of songs I like to listen to while hiking because they remind me of the trail or being in the woods in one way or another. I've got about 38 songs that vary from bluegrass, to rock, to classical, and even some rap. I figure there probably are some that I am not thinking of, so I would like to hear from others some of that they consider trail songs.

To get the ball rolling here is one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ2SGo4yINs

Lugnut
2012-12-07, 09:53
Looks like HOI playing bass.

Hog On Ice
2012-12-07, 09:55
looks more like Superman to me - except for the hat

SGT Rock
2012-12-07, 11:14
To keep it rollin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP27ahm-hns

Kanga
2012-12-07, 11:30
gVAnlke_xUY

Kanga
2012-12-07, 11:33
N3P8j8GjJI0

rcli4
2012-12-07, 17:24
To keep it rollin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP27ahm-hns

That is the only song I can play on the piano. years ago I coached basketball at the boys club. They had a talent show to raise money. One smart ass rich dude said he would pay 5 grand if I played a song and sang it on stage. An old church lady taught me to play it. Haven't played it since but one time when I got drunk in a piano bar. Think I'll go to my daughters and see if I can still play it. Thanks for the reminder.

rcli4
2012-12-07, 17:45
The smart ass rich dude was Billy Powell. He thought I would play one of his songs.

Superman
2012-12-07, 18:34
looks more like Superman to me - except for the hat

All hiking songs are evil.

Hog On Ice
2012-12-07, 19:03
so anyone going to post up their most persistent ear worm? - too bad there isn't an autoplay option - that would really nail it into their heads

sheepdog
2012-12-07, 19:45
All hiking songs are evil.

I never listen to music while hiking. It's not why I'm there. I have never hiked for more than 14 days. That could change things.

SGT Rock
2012-12-09, 14:42
I didn't use to. But I find it helps me stay motivated at times like driving ran when all you hear is the rain hitting your rain hood and the world is a soggy mess.

Tin Man
2012-12-09, 14:59
I never listen to music while hiking. It's not why I'm there. I have never hiked for more than 14 days. That could change things.

i listen to the music of the forest... but when i hear a nearby highway, like the stretch bro and i are working in PA, i am thinking bringing a personal music device might be a good idea

SGT Rock
2012-12-09, 15:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKVp-atyiVA

Big Mac
2012-12-09, 16:12
Mark me down as someone that has never listened to music while hiking. I like to listen to the woods.

sheepdog
2012-12-09, 16:29
I remember walking up behind someone with a hood on and ear buds in. He almost jumped to the tree tops when he finally saw me right next to him.

Cuffs
2012-12-09, 16:50
Mark me down as someone that has never listened to music while hiking. I like to listen to the woods.

Same here.

Remind me to tell y'all the story of survivor Dave and his music some day.

john pickett
2012-12-09, 18:42
I take an AM-FM radio to listen to NPR and Rush Limbaugh. I finally bought an MP-3 player and use it for classical music
and Really Good rock like The Who's "Tommy" and anything by ABBA. Can't get enough of those pure voices.

john pickett
2012-12-09, 18:43
And I hike with only one earpiece.

Tin Man
2012-12-09, 18:55
I take an AM-FM radio to listen to NPR and Rush Limbaugh. I finally bought an MP-3 player and use it for classical music
and Really Good rock like The Who's "Tommy" and anything by ABBA. Can't get enough of those pure voices.

that must be... um, confusing

Big Mac
2012-12-10, 10:14
There is something wrong with someone that uses rock and ABBA in the same sentence.

D'Artagnan
2012-12-10, 10:25
XcYsO890YJY

john pickett
2012-12-10, 11:33
"There is something wrong with someone that uses rock and ABBA in the same sentence"
That's because I want something other than the rythmic thumping and grunting which
constitutes most rock and roll.

john pickett
2012-12-10, 11:34
And I am eclectic in my tastes.

Big Mac
2012-12-10, 13:41
And I am eclectic in my tastes.

Nothing wrong with eclectic.

ABBA. On the other hand. . .

sheepdog
2012-12-10, 17:10
And I am eclectic in my tastes.

We're not here to judge. That is for each man to decide for himself.

SGT Rock
2012-12-10, 17:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OxNfOyWH0w

Plodding up a mountain

Big Mac
2012-12-10, 17:19
We're not here to judge. That is for each man to decide for himself.

I'm here to judge. :-)

SGT Rock
2012-12-10, 19:48
Because of Jester I think of trails when I hear this one:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfJVWQjJjcc

Check out minute 1:03

Jester
2012-12-11, 12:45
Nice, Rock! Also note that there's a Yuengling van in the video!

Superman
2012-12-11, 12:54
We're not here to judge. That is for each man to decide for himself.

Music is the devil's work. Just sayin.

SGT Rock
2012-12-11, 13:11
Nice, Rock! Also note that there's a Yuengling van in the video!

I saw that. I've got a few on my playlist because of you. Here is another I cannot hear without thinking about trails.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRvAcwjfUx4

BTW, as I was watching Wizards for about the 50th time, I think I saw Sly?

Jester
2012-12-11, 14:42
Yup! A very brief shot of Sly when we're getting dropped off by Terrie Anderson.

SGT Rock
2012-12-11, 14:49
That was where I thought I saw him. Bravo!

So when can we expect Wizards of the PCT? Or whatever the working title is.

Jester
2012-12-11, 15:48
CDT film probably won't be ready until April.

SGT Rock
2012-12-11, 15:52
I can wait.

Skidsteer
2012-12-11, 17:35
CDT film probably won't be ready until April.

Come on. You can quit Facebook and collapse some time frames.

Just kidding. :biggrin:

ed bell
2012-12-11, 22:27
Well, this one always felt like hiking to me..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYAPliLhTAk&feature=fvst

SGT Rock
2012-12-12, 11:21
Well, this one always felt like hiking to me..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYAPliLhTAk&feature=fvst

I never listen to the words until now. Good song.

john pickett
2012-12-12, 11:59
"I think I saw Sly?"
maybe an haluslynation?

Skidsteer
2012-12-12, 12:43
wP7Chi9MPSg

chief
2012-12-12, 15:58
More recent pic!

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/celebrity/music/glen-campbell

Superman
2012-12-12, 16:48
More recent pic!

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/celebrity/music/glen-campbell

The aging process does not treat us all equaly and anybody can have a bad day.

SGT Rock
2012-12-12, 18:44
XcYsO890YJY

I finally found the version I was thinking of:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwYcsMiB2UM

SGT Rock
2012-12-12, 22:20
Good one of the CDT. Check out minute 1:47


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8jHqicDEsU

john pickett
2012-12-13, 11:52
Sweet!

D'Artagnan
2012-12-13, 15:17
Good one of the CDT. Check out minute 1:47


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8jHqicDEsU



I hope you were referring to the "Hobo Pool" and not the old guy wearing a speedo at 1:47!!!

Jester
2012-12-13, 18:08
Good one of the CDT. Check out minute 1:47


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8jHqicDEsU

I was totin' my pack along the snowy East Glacier Road
When along came a pickup with some haybales as its load.
"If you're going to East Glacier, Mack, with us you can ride."
And so I climbed into the cab and then I settled down inside.
He asked me if I'd been on trail when the snow was coming down.
And I said, "Listen, I've traveled every trail in the Triple Crown."

I've been everywhere, man
I've hiked every trail, man
Crossed the deserts bare, man
I've breathed the mountain air, man
Of hikin' I've had my share, man
I've been everywhere.

I've been to Steamboat, Vernon, Lima, Snowqualmie,
Pie Town, Quincy, Rawlins, Hiawassee,
Wrightwood, Packwood, Dubois, Drakesbad,
Pinedale, Troutdale, Macks Inn, Seiad,
Winter Park, Benchmark, Manning Park, Cracker Barrel,
Salida, and Helena, and Sawtelle, what the hell?

(chorus)

I've been to Daleville, Leadville, Burney, Andover,
Mt. Laguna, Caledonia, Anaconda, Hanover,
Rutland, Ashland, Monson, Durango,
Chief Mountain, Roan Mountain, Bear Mountain, Frisco,
Tennessee to Mojave/Tehachapi, Twin Lakes,
Grand Lake, Trout Lake, Crater Lake for Pete's sake.

(chorus)

I've been to Damascus, Columbus, Stehekin, Catawba,
Silverton, Silverthorne, Tahoe, and Chama,
Cascade Locks, Millinocket, Big Bear, Darby,
Yellowstone, Duncannon, Timberline, Tuolumne,
Kincora, Etna, Hachita, Donner Pass,
Sonora Pass, Muir Pass, Mather Pass kicked my ass.

(chorus)

I've been to Lordsburg, Gatlinburg, Pearisburg, Colorado,
Pine Grove, Lake Morena, Leadore, Waynesboro,
Boiling Springs, Warner Springs, Hot Springs, Pagosa Springs,
Ghost Ranch, Old Station, Harpers Ferry, Deming,
Idyllwild, Erwin, Green Valley, Sierra City,
Atlantic City, Silver City, Lake City, what a pity.

(chorus)

Jester
2012-12-13, 18:12
This is one we sang on the PCT in Southern California:

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D'Artagnan
2012-12-13, 22:01
.......

D'Artagnan
2012-12-13, 22:03
9sACQPV2Phc



These guys can be a little corny, but I get a kick out of ol' Jake Hess.

john pickett
2012-12-14, 12:52
Corny? With these guys around we can get rid of Iowa!

D'Artagnan
2012-12-14, 13:09
Corny? With these guys around we can get rid of Iowa!

Ha! There's more cheese in that video than all of Wisconsin!

john pickett
2012-12-15, 11:59
Know the difference between a Wisconsonite and a Minnesotan?
The Wisconsonite wears his cheese on the Outside of his head!

Superman
2012-12-15, 15:11
Old Wyoming cowboy in a pharmacy












Cowboy: "Give me three packets of condoms, please."





Cashier: "Do you need a paper bag with that, sir?"





Cowboy: "Nah. She ain't that ugly."

SGT Rock
2012-12-17, 09:00
This is one we sang on the PCT in Southern California:



One of your PCT stars would like this one:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPl6-dbIkiU

SGT Rock
2012-12-19, 23:30
Another one of my favorite songs to listen to while on the trail:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfDEwyl4uCM

Skidsteer
2012-12-20, 00:00
Hell yeah.

Skidsteer
2012-12-20, 00:05
What I like about that video is you see a couple glimpses of how much he really enjoys making music.

SGT Rock
2012-12-20, 00:13
What I like about that video is you see a couple glimpses of how much he really enjoys making music.

Absolutely, this is why I also like the live videos of one of my other favorite trail songs:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9A60e16SvM

sheepdog
2012-12-20, 08:29
http://youtu.be/pg7HvF3a_Iw
pg7HvF3a_Iw

john pickett
2012-12-20, 10:57
Rock, Those hippies can sure make pretty music.

SGT Rock
2012-12-23, 20:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pCv7k_Hzvg

Lugnut
2012-12-23, 22:16
Much of that movie was filmed near Frankin, NC. Wonder if Ron had any bit parts?

D'Artagnan
2012-12-24, 01:45
Much of that movie was filmed near Frankin, NC. Wonder if Ron had any bit parts?

A lot of it was filmed on the estate grounds at Biltmore too.

sheepdog
2012-12-24, 09:05
I had a couple re-en actor friends in the movie.

Jester
2012-12-24, 17:36
This is one of the bands I'll be using for the CDT movie:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dd6cKqSF5w

SGT Rock
2012-12-24, 18:14
Cool band

SGT Rock
2012-12-26, 17:59
BTW, Jester. Did any of the cast from the PCT show up for the CDT. Though I've never met any of them but Squatch, I feel like I know them from the trail after watching that thing so many times.

Is it possible to wear out a DVD?

Jester
2012-12-26, 22:52
BTW, Jester. Did any of the cast from the PCT show up for the CDT. Though I've never met any of them but Squatch, I feel like I know them from the trail after watching that thing so many times.

Is it possible to wear out a DVD?

God I hope not.

Returning from Wizards for the CDT movie are myself, Ratatouille, and Coyote. Also Gazelle, who is in Wizards briefly at the beginning and in the Sierra. Squatch also makes an appearance for the first couple of days in the desert. Wing-It and Don't Panic make a brief appearance at the end.

New people you'll see a lot of are Marlowe (Gazelle's boyfriend) and first-time thru-hikers Dovebar and Pants.

SGT Rock
2012-12-26, 23:24
God I hope not.

Returning from Wizards for the CDT movie are myself, Ratatouille, and Coyote. Also Gazelle, who is in Wizards briefly at the beginning and in the Sierra. Squatch also makes an appearance for the first couple of days in the desert. Wing-It and Don't Panic make a brief appearance at the end.It will be good to see Coyote and Ratatouille again. I got the idea watching "Wizzards of the PCT" that they met on the trail and were a couple by the end. I also often wonder how Smooth and SOL ended up after the hike. It was awful cool of him to finish with her the way they did since she screwed up her knee.


New people you'll see a lot of are Marlowe (Gazelle's boyfriend) and first-time thru-hikers Dovebar and Pants.Pants? Seems I read somewhere you really like that word.

First time thru-hikers doing the CDT. I'm impressed. I got a DVD when I was in Iraq on my second tour from Adam "Magnum" Pelletier of his 2006 CDT thru-hike. It looked like there were a lot more issues to deal with on the CDT than on the AT or PCT. He had a first time thru-hiker on the trail with him, but I think that guy quit before he got out of New Mexico. Adam's video was a LOT longer than your PCT video, but pretty good about the trail. But the music wasn't as good as yours.

http://vimeo.com/user777299

Geo.
2012-12-27, 00:53
Can't touch this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo


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Jester
2012-12-27, 03:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqvwmuZIHb0

The Goat
2012-12-27, 20:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqvwmuZIHb0

that's a great one, jester. can't remember who turned me on to them.....maybe it was you, or booboo.....either way, they are amazing!

Jester
2012-12-27, 23:24
that's a great one, jester. can't remember who turned me on to them.....maybe it was you, or booboo.....either way, they are amazing!

They've given me permission to use their music in the CDT movie, and I got a chance to shoot some live footage of them playing in Aspen while I was on the trail.

SGT Rock
2012-12-29, 12:54
All this poopy talk about guns and stuff. Lets have a little fun. Trail songs again...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg1k_G6fRpQ&list=PLnpklAcPAeS4a43dmjHSlVqxHPZ6mAVve

Superman
2012-12-29, 13:08
All trail songs are evil because they conflict with the voices.:angel:

The Goat
2012-12-29, 15:06
They've given me permission to use their music in the CDT movie, and I got a chance to shoot some live footage of them playing in Aspen while I was on the trail.

nice! when are you anticipating the CDT movie release?

Jester
2012-12-29, 15:22
nice! when are you anticipating the CDT movie release?

I'm going to aim for April 1st.

Hog On Ice
2012-12-29, 15:32
good choice

Superman
2012-12-29, 15:37
good choice

Um...are you thinking it's a good choice because it's April Fools Day or the anniversary of the second day of the battle of ap gu?:angel:

Hog On Ice
2012-12-29, 15:49
good choice as it its fairly soon and April Fools Day says its got some good humor in it

Jester
2012-12-29, 19:10
Um...are you thinking it's a good choice because it's April Fools Day or the anniversary of the second day of the battle of ap gu?:angel:


good choice as it its fairly soon and April Fools Day says its got some good humor in it

Well, it's the anniversary of me beginning my first long distance trail. Plus it's April Fool's. Plus it's right before all of the major Spring hiking festivals (Kickoff, Trail Days, etc.). And it seems like a mark I can hit. So there's that.

SGT Rock
2012-12-29, 19:11
Better than going with April 15th.

Geo.
2012-12-29, 19:53
Clanadonia - The Gael (Glasgow style)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzOQNf00OWI


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SGT Rock
2012-12-29, 19:59
That was cool, and that ain't no hippy drum circle.

Barely understood a word that guy said.

Lugnut
2012-12-29, 22:26
Looks like the 'what's in your wallet" guys.

SGT Rock
2012-12-30, 12:45
I think of this song when I am climbing that last 0.1 mile up to a view


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNGe7iK1O-4

Lugnut
2012-12-30, 13:13
That gal can really scream!

D'Artagnan
2012-12-30, 13:46
I became interested in Morricone a few years ago when I realized that he had written so much. If I could ask for any gift, the ability to write music would be it.

john pickett
2012-12-30, 17:52
if I could ask for any gift, the ability to keep people who write music under contract would be it. =^)

Hog On Ice
2012-12-30, 20:26
a possibility?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tORuEdknbWI

SGT Rock
2012-12-30, 20:47
Hmm, pretty good. Never hear of her.

Bearpaw
2012-12-30, 21:08
I think of this song when I am climbing that last 0.1 mile up to a view


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNGe7iK1O-4

One of the best soundtracks ever. I got it on CD about 20 years ago and still listen to it from time to time.

Hog On Ice
2012-12-30, 21:42
this one is a little out there - maybe of interest:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIc4VHxU7iM

just think hobo party after the shine has gone around

SGT Rock
2012-12-30, 21:46
One of the best soundtracks ever. I got it on CD about 20 years ago and still listen to it from time to time.

He has done a lot of soundtracks that I didn't realize he had done until recently.

Hog On Ice
2012-12-30, 22:08
another possible from the Hobbit:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OiYDUEu3i8

Hog On Ice
2012-12-30, 22:19
another one from srt8voices: http://freemp3x.com/play.php?sounc=http://media.soundcloud.com/stream/cJEAGUPjjHGw?stream_token=HBlJ7

pleasant if not informative

Jester
2012-12-31, 03:19
He has done a lot of soundtracks that I didn't realize he had done until recently.

He did the soundtrack for The Mission. It's amazing.

Superman
2012-12-31, 03:27
He did the soundtrack for The Mission. It's amazing.

Hey...what are you doing up at this hour?:angel:

Wonder
2012-12-31, 13:05
Seriously! Bars don't do last call until 230 up there! Slacker! :-)

D'Artagnan
2012-12-31, 23:03
He did the soundtrack for The Mission. It's amazing.

Yeah, "Gabriel's Oboe" is one of my all-time favorites.

D'Artagnan
2012-12-31, 23:08
"Deborah's Theme" is another amazing work.

And while we're at it, "The Untouchables" would not have made the impact it did without Morricone's soundtrack. One of the best movies ever!

Geo.
2013-01-01, 01:03
Desperados waitin' for a train...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJA4TGOAn98

Austin
2013-01-01, 17:06
Damn... 3 people unfriended me for watching that! :(

Geo.
2013-01-01, 17:55
Damn... 3 people unfriended me for watching that! :(

Try netting 'em again with this one then...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFrMSJgOIpM

JAK
2013-01-01, 20:58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U89Qtbnk-Q4

JAK
2013-01-01, 21:01
This ancient lament I think of when alone in the forest. I've only heard it a few times. Haunting.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqY79y-SCbA

I've heard the lilting, at our yowe-milking,
Lasses a-lilting, before the dawn o' day;
But now they are moaning, on ilka green loaning:
The Flowers o' the Forest are a' wede away.

At buchts in the morning, nae blythe lads are scorning
The lasses are lonely, and dowie, and wae;
Nae daffin', nae gabbin', but sighing and sabbing,
Ilk ane lifts her leglen and hies away.

In hairst, at the shearing, nae youths now are jeering
The bandsters are lyart, and runkled and grey
At fair, or at preaching, nae wooing, nae fleeching
The Flowers o' the Forest are a' wede away.

At e'en, at the gloaming, nae swankies are roaming
'Bout stacks wi' the lasses at bogle to play;
But ilk ane sits drearie, lamenting her dearie
The Flowers o' the Forest are a' wede away.

Dule and wae to the order, sent our lads to the border
The English, for aince, by guile wan the day:
The Flowers o' the Forest, that foucht aye the foremost
The pride o' our land, are cauld in the clay.

We hear nae mair lilting at our yowe-milking,
Women and bairns are heartless and wae;
Sighing and moaning on ilka green loaning
The Flowers o' the Forest are a' wede away.

JAK
2013-01-01, 21:16
This fellow I've picked up on lately. He has an interesting facebook page.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XwpsgkM8m8

Geo.
2013-01-02, 17:49
That was cool, and that ain't no hippy drum circle.

Barely understood a word that guy said.

Rock, seems you're not the only one having trouble with Scottish accents... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0DGA2VV3cI


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SGT Rock
2013-01-02, 20:56
Now that was funny.

I like the movie Trainspotting but can only understand about half of what they say.

Big Mac
2013-01-02, 21:37
When I first got over there last year I could barely understand them. It grew on you over time, but some of them were hard to understand right to the last day.

SGT Rock
2013-01-02, 21:52
Hey Geo, aren't you originally from Scotland? I remember you said your uncle was from Scotland.

SGT Rock
2013-01-02, 21:58
Maybe this will make you laugh Geo:


hhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJFD1v4Df34

D'Artagnan
2013-01-02, 23:18
Now that was funny.

I like the movie Trainspotting but can only understand about half of what they say.

I watched that just the other day. It'd been years. I like the part near the beginning where the tall skinny guy goes for the job interview. If you can quote that dialog, I'll kiss your left cheek.

SGT Rock
2013-01-02, 23:22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsxYfYCbVC0

john pickett
2013-01-03, 12:10
On a serious (mostly) note, presbycusis (age related hearing loss) seems to start being noticed in men in their mid to late 40's. Might be worthwhile to get a hearing exam.

Geo.
2013-01-03, 18:04
Rock, had to listen to that 'American' clip a couple of times - thought I was losing my ear for US accents. Or having a bad case of 'waitress syndrome'. :o
Yep, the family was from Scotland (Motherwell - near Glasgow, with grandparents originally from Aberdeen and Dundee) but we kind of all got a bit widespread with emigrating to England, Wales, USA and NZ.
Been a long time since I emigrated from the UK but the Scot's accent doesn't throw me and I can understand what Spud is rattling on about. Sailed with Glaswegian crews for a few years too - now there's an accent to grapple with after it's been oiled with a few.
Trainspotting. Great movie. Opening scenes were set in Edinburgh, though most of the movie was made in Glasgow.
Interesting thread, getting to hear a bit of music wouldn't normally come across.
Cheers, George


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Jester
2013-01-03, 18:46
When I first got over there last year I could barely understand them. It grew on you over time, but some of them were hard to understand right to the last day.

In 1996 I took my then girlfriend to Northern ireland to meet my family. She couldn't understand any of them, which put me in the odd position of translating English into English.

Superman
2013-01-03, 18:52
In 1996 I took my then girlfriend to Northern ireland to meet my family. She couldn't understand any of them, which put me in the odd position of translating English into English.

It's a common position for people with hearing problems. Pat translates english to english for me all the time.

Big Mac
2013-01-03, 20:31
In 1996 I took my then girlfriend to Northern ireland to meet my family. She couldn't understand any of them, which put me in the odd position of translating English into English.

Ha ha ha - I have a friend at work that transferred from Ireland. Any time we go out to eat or for a beer I offer to translate for the waitress.

SGT Rock
2013-01-03, 21:09
In 1996 I took my then girlfriend to Northern ireland to meet my family. She couldn't understand any of them, which put me in the odd position of translating English into English.

Many years ago I worked for a Puerto Rican with a bad accent. When I first started working there I needed someone to interpret for me. By the time I left I was the 'terp.

sheepdog
2013-01-03, 21:57
http://youtu.be/0Rl9Cxc7uZA
0Rl9Cxc7uZA

saimyoji
2013-01-03, 22:49
JprubgAoEoQ

D'Artagnan
2013-01-04, 00:13
JprubgAoEoQ

Hair Pie!

Nearly Normal
2013-01-04, 04:37
Many years ago I worked for a Puerto Rican with a bad accent. When I first started working there I needed someone to interpret for me. By the time I left I was the 'terp.

Same thing here with Gullah but you hear it less now.

The Goat
2013-01-04, 19:35
Many years ago I worked for a Puerto Rican with a bad accent. When I first started working there I needed someone to interpret for me. By the time I left I was the 'terp.

lol, i used to work with a croatian dude, same thing. day 1 i only caught one word out every 3 sentences, after a few years people who didn't know him were all like: "what did he just say?", and i'd fill 'em in.

SGT Rock
2013-01-05, 09:14
Speaking of Scots and trail songs, here is an obvious one for me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otXGqU4LBEI

SGT Rock
2013-01-05, 19:51
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmBgxP56R1I

SGT Rock
2013-01-05, 23:18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYBwa-Rzrgc&list=PLnpklAcPAeS4a43dmjHSlVqxHPZ6mAVve&shuffle=575
My youngest boy started singing this one day when we were climbing up and out of Linville Gorge.

Hog On Ice
2013-01-05, 23:35
going up Pinch In trail?

SGT Rock
2013-01-06, 00:44
I think that was the one.

GGS
2013-01-06, 02:54
Interesting collection of songs.

I notice there are two types of people when it comes to music, those who key on the lyrics and those who key on the theme. A lyrics person likes the words of the song even if the theme sucks. I'm definitely a theme person. The theme for me creates the image. Music doesn't have to have vocals, and if it does, they are mostly irrelevant for me. Often the image the music creates for me is completely different than that intended by the words.

Two themes for me that are anchored to hiking... One is the adventure theme to Lord of the Rings, here played for the first minute as the Fellowship begins their "hike" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNndi2VBaCc Absolutely gorgeous hiking, even if a fantasy! Gotta put hiking in New Zealand on the bucket list.

The other is the Misty Mountains theme in the Hobbit, which plays over similar hiking scenes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Z8Rrrqe88

(A nod to Kanga and HOI for similar picks)

Also a thumbs up for Sgt Rock's "Ecstasy of Gold". A pair of hikers used this song in their video on Youtube, which was posted on this site in another thread. Now I can't seem to find it. This same pair of hikers made a "dueling water filter" hiking video, which was also posted on that thread.

Myself, I prefer to not listen to music while hiking. It's the "song of the woods" that I enjoy listening to. Well that and I'm a bit nervous walking in black bear country with my hearing masked. ;-/

john pickett
2013-01-06, 08:29
I like to hike while wearing a single earphone, keeping (I hope) one ear for my surroundings.
I also prefer acoustic music rather than lyrics. My hearing loss means I am often unable
to distinguish the words and (for me) they merely interfere with the music.

SGT Rock
2013-01-06, 14:26
Interesting collection of songs.

I notice there are two types of people when it comes to music, those who key on the lyrics and those who key on the theme. A lyrics person likes the words of the song even if the theme sucks. I'm definitely a theme person. The theme for me creates the image. Music doesn't have to have vocals, and if it does, they are mostly irrelevant for me. Often the image the music creates for me is completely different than that intended by the words.

Two themes for me that are anchored to hiking... One is the adventure theme to Lord of the Rings, here played for the first minute as the Fellowship begins their "hike" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNndi2VBaCc Absolutely gorgeous hiking, even if a fantasy! Gotta put hiking in New Zealand on the bucket list.

The other is the Misty Mountains theme in the Hobbit, which plays over similar hiking scenes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Z8Rrrqe88

(A nod to Kanga and HOI for similar picks)

Also a thumbs up for Sgt Rock's "Ecstasy of Gold". A pair of hikers used this song in their video on Youtube, which was posted on this site in another thread. Now I can't seem to find it. This same pair of hikers made a "dueling water filter" hiking video, which was also posted on that thread.

Myself, I prefer to not listen to music while hiking. It's the "song of the woods" that I enjoy listening to. Well that and I'm a bit nervous walking in black bear country with my hearing masked. ;-/

Speaking of things like "Ecstasy of Gold" and the like. I was hiking into Damascus during a snowstorm in 2008 and all I could hear was wind blowing and snow hitting my hood, so I put in my MP3 player and got walking. I ended up in a folder full of Ennio Morricone music, and they seemed to just fit with walking in a snowstorm. Now whenever I hear them I think of that walk, good memories.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFtmdorQG-U&list=PLnpklAcPAeS4a43dmjHSlVqxHPZ6mAVve&shuffle=575

And speaking of Misty Mountain, that is one of my trail songs, but by a different group:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtWtDhyd7Hg
I think of the Smokies when I hear it.

Hog On Ice
2013-01-09, 07:23
Q8m4-Ao11Xk

same song without distractions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnUwwYUq8RI

SGT Rock
2013-01-09, 09:51
I liked that one. I think it could grow on me.

sheepdog
2013-01-09, 11:02
One of my favorite things to do.

john pickett
2013-01-09, 11:03
Been wondering if I can legally download some of these You-Tube songs to an mp-3 player. Also how. I asked my wife who is way more computer literate than I and she had no idea whether or how. Can anyone here help?

Skidsteer
2013-01-09, 11:24
Been wondering if I can legally download some of these You-Tube songs to an mp-3 player. Also how. I asked my wife who is way more computer literate than I and she had no idea whether or how. Can anyone here help?

aTubecatcher. Free download. I'll refrain from giving legal advice.

Jester
2013-01-09, 11:48
I notice there are two types of people when it comes to music . . .

I notince that there are two types of people in the world. People who divide the world into two types of people, and those who don't.


Been wondering if I can legally download some of these You-Tube songs to an mp-3 player. Also how. I asked my wife who is way more computer literate than I and she had no idea whether or how. Can anyone here help?

I'm not uncomfortable giving legal advice. The answer to your question is no.

SGT Rock
2013-01-09, 12:05
You can download MP3s and pay a few cents for them usually through some of these music sites. Win/win, no file conversion and the performer gets paid. And you don't have to pay for a whole album for that one song.

Law Dawg (ret)
2013-01-09, 12:25
I notince that there are two types of people in the world. People who divide the world into two types of people, and those who don't.



I'm not uncomfortable giving legal advice. The answer to your question is no.

Aaaand there are 10 kinds of people in the world; Those who understand binary and those who don't. ;)

Just not getting caught does not make it the right thing to do...pay the artist fercryin'outloud.

BTW the mental picture of the PCT crew singing Cool Water along the desert portion was perfect. :beer:

SGT Rock
2013-01-09, 12:36
Aaaand there are 10 kinds of people in the world; Those who understand binary and those who don't. ;)

Just not getting caught does not make it the right thing to do...pay the artist fercryin'outloud.

BTW the mental picture of the PCT crew singing Cool Water along the desert portion was perfect. :beer:

You live out there near the PCT somewhere right?

Law Dawg (ret)
2013-01-09, 12:47
Yep, about an hour away from Walker Pass 2.5 from Kennedy Meadows. Why, you heading this way soon? ;)

Spogatz
2013-01-09, 13:12
Really there are only 10 types of people in the world

those who understand binary and those who don't.....

SGT Rock
2013-01-09, 13:16
Yep, about an hour away from Walker Pass 2.5 from Kennedy Meadows. Why, you heading this way soon? ;)

I wish. I am hoping that maybe next year I might get to go do the JMT.

Law Dawg (ret)
2013-01-09, 13:26
I have been considering offering assistance to select hikers at the Walker Pass/Kennedy Meadows area. Not enough time and resources to do a blanket trail angel program...that and Judy would roller pin me if I did. When you get out this way please be sure to give a holler. The JMT is not too far away (at both ends) so we could offer a drop and pick up taxi.

john pickett
2013-01-09, 15:38
"The answer to your question is no"
No I can't download them legally or no you can't help?

Skidsteer
2013-01-09, 15:51
"The answer to your question is no"
No I can't download them legally or no you can't help?

I know I said I would refrain but, no you can't download them legally.

I happen to think that a good attorney would get any charges dropped under certain circumstances but here's the thing;

It's still wrong to steal. A musician deserves to be paid for his work the same as I deserve to be paid for mine. Not judging you for asking the question because it's something many people don't even consider until after they've done it. I've read some really elaborate and well thought out rationalizations on why it's not wrong but after I considered it from the Artist's point of view(a little thing called the golden rule)I just can't do it anymore. YMMV.

SGT Rock
2013-01-09, 15:53
I have been considering offering assistance to select hikers at the Walker Pass/Kennedy Meadows area. Not enough time and resources to do a blanket trail angel program...that and Judy would roller pin me if I did. When you get out this way please be sure to give a holler. The JMT is not too far away (at both ends) so we could offer a drop and pick up taxi.

I may get with you and take you up on that if this hike ever happens. I was looking though some websites about the JMT about how to get to the JMT, and all the bus/train connections required from San Francisco. I did a timeline and it looks like it could take conceivably 2 days to get to the JMT, and 2 days to get off the JMT using the available public transport doing that. Then I checked flights into Mammoth Lakes. Even though the ticket would be more, the hassle plus all the connections and meals, and lodging made that look a lot more desirable as fly in point. But if you were to offer rides to and from based on your location that might be even better. What would be the closest place to fly in?

john pickett
2013-01-09, 18:01
"no you can't download them legally"
Thanks, Skids. That's all I needed to know.

Skidsteer
2013-01-09, 18:47
"no you can't download them legally"
Thanks, Skids. That's all I needed to know.

Good for you.

Now let me tell you what you can do legally.

If you have a smartphone and IF you have a signal(I know, I know), you can download apps from places like Pandora or IHeart Radio, etc. and make your own playlists using songs you choose and listen to them while hiking or camping or anything else. You can also download this software to your computer at home and do the same thing using your wi-fi. One of the really fun things is to start with a song you like and let the software make suggestions for the rest of the playlist. You can find some really good stuff that you might not have heard before that way.

The free versions of these apps are free because there are commercials, albeit not as many as radio, in my opinion. Or you can pay a reasonable subscription fee to these services for a no commercial version.

Or, you can do what SGT Rock suggested and buy the songs you want on iTunes, etc. for what are actually quite reasonable fees all things considered, and have them for personal use whenever and however you want.

Have fun.

Kanga
2013-01-09, 18:53
it is illegal to steal mp3's off of the internet without paying for them. it is not illegal to create your own mp3 from a youtube file.

Law Dawg (ret)
2013-01-09, 19:14
But if you were to offer rides to and from based on your location that might be even better. What would be the closest place to fly in?

Prolly LA X and a puddle hopper to Bakersfield (Meadows Field)...unless there is some sort of a direct flight to Meadows. Judy and I could probably have you there in about three hours. A bonus for me is the recon from here to the trail head would be a great excuse for a motorcycle ride. :burnout:

SGT Rock
2013-01-09, 20:21
I just looked at flights. To Bakersfield, Ca is only $10 different than going to Mammoth Lakes. Sounds good :cool:

john pickett
2013-01-10, 11:17
Since there's a difference of opinion here, I'll probably go to a lawyer here and get a "paid-for" opinion.
Soon as I can get my wife to agree having an opinion on this is worth the $100.00 I might be charged.
I'm 63, oops. May I live so long!

sheepdog
2013-01-10, 13:23
Since there's a difference of opinion here, I'll probably go to a lawyer here and get a "paid-for" opinion.
Soon as I can get my wife to agree having an opinion on this is worth the $100.00 I might be charged.
I'm 63, oops. May I live so long!

Send me money and I'll give you the best opinion money can buy.

john pickett
2013-01-10, 14:52
Only if you're admitted to the bar in my home state. Which is no longer Texas.

Jester
2013-01-10, 23:29
As someone who
a) has had to secure rights for copyrighted music and
b) has an intellectual property that is copyrighted,
I'm well versed in copyright law, particularly as it pertains to the internet.

It's illegal to download copyrighted material from YouTube or anywhere else without permission. It's also illegal to create your own mp3 from a YouTube file. If you're interested in that particular aspect of copyright law, look into the cease and desist order YouTube served to youtube-mp3.org in August. You'll note if you go to that site that their converter will no longer, for example, convert my film trailer to an mp3. When you try, the message you get is:

Google Inc. doesn't want you to convert this video.
Please sign a petition to change their mind:

(that message is then followed by a link to an online petition)

That message is up there because it's illegal, and they were ordered to stop. And they did.
Now, some artists copyright their works under what's called a Creative Commons License, which means that you can download their material for free. You can even use it in your own projects. Jonathan Coulton comes to mind. But the majority of artists use a standard copyright.

Kanga
2013-01-11, 09:52
the functioning word in that is "copyrighted".

john pickett
2013-01-11, 11:26
Thanks, Jester.
On this topic, is there any way to learn which artists and which music falls under the Creative Commons License you reference?

Mfleming
2013-01-11, 13:29
Kanga - Songs, stories, art, photos etc are "copyrighted" upon creation. Registering the copyright with the government lets the copyright holder collect statutory damages if there is an infringement. No registration limits the author to actual damages. Not an attorney, but this is what I have been told by an intellectual property attorney

sheepdog
2013-01-11, 13:43
If you go to jail for piracy Kanga: do it up here. I got some bitches I want you to beat down.

Kanga
2013-01-11, 13:59
okay!

sheepdog
2013-01-11, 14:13
okay!

I'll sneak you chocolate and beer.

john pickett
2013-01-11, 17:16
And don't forget the cheese and crackers.

sheepdog
2013-01-11, 18:18
zactly

Jester
2013-01-11, 20:28
the functioning word in that is "copyrighted".

Whether something is registerd with the government or not, copyright exists for all creative endeavors, merely by saying so. When you see "Standard YouTube License" listed as the license in the description for a video, it means that the creator of the video allows people to watch it, but that's it.


Thanks, Jester.
On this topic, is there any way to learn which artists and which music falls under the Creative Commons License you reference?

In that same spot in the description of a video, you would see a line that says "License: Creative Commons." That means, essentially, that you can do whatever you want with the content.

Skidsteer
2013-01-11, 21:07
In that same spot in the description of a video, you would see a line that says "License: Creative Commons." That means, essentially, that you can do whatever you want with the content.

Very often there is a download button embedded in the video.

saimyoji
2013-01-11, 21:20
I have realplayer and it often pops up a tool bar when I'm playing a video off the net that gives me the option to download the video. Are you suggesting that realplayer is encouraging me to violate copyright laws?

sheepdog
2013-01-11, 21:23
I have realplayer and it often pops up a tool bar when I'm playing a video off the net that gives me the option to download the video. Are you suggesting that realplayer is encouraging me to violate copyright laws?

Real play is a gate way snatcher. Once you get hooked on that, then its on to the hard stuff.

Skidsteer
2013-01-11, 21:32
Yeah, next thing you know, you're jacking off to "Wizards of the PCT".

Hog On Ice
2013-01-11, 21:36
+1 for Skids

just don't get caught using the brass wizard for said purposes

saimyoji
2013-01-11, 22:06
Yeah, next thing you know, you're jacking off to "Wizards of the PCT".

nah...you can still view online porn, just don't download it.

chief
2013-01-12, 01:56
In that same spot in the description of a video, you would see a line that says "License: Creative Commons." That means, essentially, that you can do whatever you want with the content.Not really. There are several CC license levels, each with different permissible usages.

Jester
2013-01-12, 20:43
Not really. There are several CC license levels, each with different permissible usages.

True! There are six (by my count) different types of Creative Commons Licenses, most of them having to do with whether or not you can alter the original work, and whether or not the end result can be for commercial purposes or not. Since we were just talking about downloading material, I didn't get into that (because most of that has to do with uploading).

But you are absolutely correct.

Jester
2013-01-12, 20:45
Yeah, next thing you know, you're jacking off to "Wizards of the PCT".

Just as long as you're jacking off to scenes with, say, SOL and not, say, scenes with me, I'm completely fine with that.

Mfleming
2013-01-13, 15:31
Whether something is registerd with the government or not, copyright exists for all creative endeavors, merely by saying so. .

That's what I said :)

Jester
2013-01-13, 17:02
That's what I said :)

Yup! But as I think Kanga was responding to something i posted, I thought I'd add a second voice in agreement. But you did, and you're absolutely right. One thing musical artists used to do to prove copyright (and the date of creation in the case of a dispute) was to mail themselves a copy of the work. That way it was sealed, and dated by the Federal government.


It's still wrong to steal. A musician deserves to be paid for his work the same as I deserve to be paid for mine. Not judging you for asking the question because it's something many people don't even consider until after they've done it. I've read some really elaborate and well thought out rationalizations on why it's not wrong but after I considered it from the Artist's point of view(a little thing called the golden rule)I just can't do it anymore. YMMV.

I agree with Skids, obviously. People rationalize doing it all the time, and under certain circumstances I can sympathize with people wanting to do it. But I don't illegally download things myself, and it has little to do with whether or not I might get caught. Plus, I'd be a pretty big hypocrite if I did so.

john pickett
2013-01-13, 17:10
"it has little to do with whether or not I might get caught"
Same here. If I can do something legally, fine. If there's doubt whether
I can do something legally, I'll pass. Doesn't have to be a lot of doubt.

Mfleming
2013-01-13, 18:50
Jester - mailing it to you doesn't really matter. If you want to have a chance at recovering meaningful damages that a lawyer is willing to take the case to seek, you need to register it at copyright.gov

GGS
2013-01-14, 00:00
I notince that there are two types of people in the world. People who divide the world into two types of people, and those who don't.

Ah. You're one of THOSE types. ;-)

Jester
2013-01-14, 03:46
Jester - mailing it to you doesn't really matter. If you want to have a chance at recovering meaningful damages that a lawyer is willing to take the case to seek, you need to register it at copyright.gov

Note that I said that mailing a copy to oneself is something artists USED to do. And that was to thwart a specific kind of intellectual property theft -- someone else claiming to be the originator of the work. Someone else doing so is a Federal crime under 17 USC 506(c), and so having a letter like I described could be used as evidence in a criminal case.

JAK
2013-01-14, 09:08
Twa Corbies

As I was walking all alane,
I heard twa corbies makin a mane;
The tane unto the ither say,
"Whar sall we gang and dine the-day?"
"In ahint yon auld fail dyke,
I wot there lies a new slain knight;
And nane do ken that he lies there,
But his hawk, his hound an his lady fair."
"His hound is tae the huntin gane,
His hawk tae fetch the wild-fowl hame,
His lady's tain anither mate,
So we may mak oor dinner swate."
"Ye'll sit on his white hause-bane,
And I'll pike oot his bonny blue een;
Wi ae lock o his gowden hair
We'll theek oor nest whan it grows bare."
"Mony a one for him makes mane,
But nane sall ken whar he is gane;
Oer his white banes, whan they are bare,
The wind sall blaw for evermair."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLxlrFtltLk

chief
2013-01-14, 17:48
True! There are six (by my count) different types of Creative Commons Licenses, most of them having to do with whether or not you can alter the original work, and whether or not the end result can be for commercial purposes or not. Since we were just talking about downloading material, I didn't get into that (because most of that has to do with uploading).

But you are absolutely correct.Thanks.

Since we're just talking about the legalities of downloading from YouTube (and other streaming sites I presume), there's nothing to worry about. You see, our good friends at YT do the downloading for us. To improve our user experience, they buffer the entire video into our browser's cache (assuming we watch the entire video in the first place or just let it buffer to the end). Isn't that nice of them? All you gotta do is find the file in your browser's cache (good luck), copy it somewhere and rename it with the .flv extension and play it with a FLV player. Works with IE anyways. Firefox splits up large files in its cache, I don't know how you deal with that.

Don't even try telling me it's illegal to play a file that YT downloaded to my trusty cache. Of course, I won't be distributing it to all my friends or burning a CD for sale. That would be illegal!

auburnbreeze
2013-01-15, 13:31
Same thing here with Gullah but you hear it less now.

There used to a kids TV show from that area that my daughters loved to watch called "Gullah, Gullah island". It was a great show for them.

Law Dawg (ret)
2013-03-26, 20:03
Spaghetti Western music anyone?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLgJ7pk0X-s&feature=player_embedded

Skidsteer
2013-03-26, 20:19
That was awesome.

SleepsWithSkunks
2013-03-29, 00:45
Here's Deweys favorite:

ecSCaZ_XPlo

tramp
2013-03-29, 07:28
Kanga....that was good !! Ok here is a question....I want to find a cd of the sounds in the woods at night so I can put it in the cd player here in the truck ( over the road truck driver ) and fall asleep listning to it . Anyone know where I can find one ?

Cuffs
2013-03-29, 09:12
A cd store?

SGT Rock
2013-03-29, 09:50
I think of our Appalachian ancestors when this one comes across my MP3 while hiking


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXGOTKAlmjI

Belew
2013-04-04, 20:01
Kanga....that was good !! Ok here is a question....I want to find a cd of the sounds in the woods at night so I can put it in the cd player here in the truck ( over the road truck driver ) and fall asleep listning to it . Anyone know where I can find one ?

That doesn't sound so safe.

D'Artagnan
2013-04-04, 22:59
A cd store?

Do they still have those?

Jester
2013-04-04, 23:15
Kanga....that was good !! Ok here is a question....I want to find a cd of the sounds in the woods at night so I can put it in the cd player here in the truck ( over the road truck driver ) and fall asleep listning to it . Anyone know where I can find one ?

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/sounds-of-the-earth-forest/5129653?ean=723724068124

Bearhunter
2013-04-14, 02:45
I really don't want to hear music while I'm out in the wilderness.
Or just hiking down an old forest service trail, or camping by a mountain lake. I'd rather hear the loons ;)
I just want the peace and quite of nature.
Plus it's not a very good idea when your hiking in griz, black bear or lion country!

sheepdog
2013-04-14, 05:40
rap music scares away lions and tigers an bears

Superman
2013-04-14, 06:13
rap music scares away lions and tigers an bears

Like me, they probably don't understand what is being said.

Bearhunter
2013-04-15, 01:31
If I was in the wilderness and heard a bunch of idiots playing music...

I'd prolly just shot them!

Invasion of privacy!!!

SGT Rock
2013-05-07, 22:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJYVH_kZkOk

D'Artagnan
2013-05-09, 23:55
For my money, the bassoon is the real hero of that piece. I never tire of it.

D'Artagnan
2013-05-10, 00:45
-GD-5mRyaJw

SGT Rock
2013-06-13, 08:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zStIm0gNnUw

sheepdog
2013-06-13, 14:16
http://youtu.be/0-qCln4KhvM
0-qCln4KhvM

Sweetpeastu
2013-07-02, 01:40
Find Me On a Mountain Top by BLue Highway :) Embrace the bluegrass!

Hog On Ice
2013-07-02, 07:09
here's the yt for you SNAFU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7gsXxuMwnw

Jester
2013-07-03, 15:28
Here's one of the songs from the new movie (one of my favorites -- it runs over the montage of Yellowstone)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPxnGePWxmU

SGT Rock
2013-07-03, 16:10
Nice song. When do we get to order a copy of the new movie?

SGT Rock
2013-07-03, 16:12
I one I recently heard:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paSPdICPtNk

Jester
2013-07-03, 18:17
Nice song. When do we get to order a copy of the new movie?

Piucking up the DVDs at the end of next week. PayPay buttons will go live on 7/15.

SGT Rock
2013-07-03, 19:40
Sweet. Can I get that with subtitles.

Sent from my SCH-R970 using Tapatalk 2

Hog On Ice
2013-07-04, 02:07
+1 for Rock

john pickett
2013-07-05, 11:41
+1 for all of us with damaged hearing. I love subtitles.

Superman
2013-07-05, 11:57
+1 for all of us with damaged hearing. I love subtitles.

Subtitles with the volume turned off is the only way I can enjoy music. Even my new hearing aids don't make it sound right.

cool breeze
2013-07-05, 12:22
What?

Superman
2013-07-05, 12:23
What?

Yes, and you sound funny also. Just sayin.

john pickett
2013-07-06, 11:07
But that's cause of genetics, not music; just sayin'

john pickett
2013-07-06, 11:10
When I listen to music with vocals, I usually can't understand the words. I don't think this is due to my tinnitis, either. When I was in high school I had trouble understanding the words to songs. I have always just treated the singers voices as another instrument.

Superman
2013-07-06, 11:12
But that's cause of genetics, not music; just sayin'

..,.as they said on Seinfeld...it's not him it's me.

Jester
2013-07-06, 12:20
When I listen to music with vocals, I usually can't understand the words. I don't think this is due to my tinnitis, either. When I was in high school I had trouble understanding the words to songs. I have always just treated the singers voices as another instrument.

I've come to realize that almost no one listens to the words of the songs in my movies. Case in point: after a test screening one of the comment cards had the note that one of the songs was too upbeat and cheery for the mood I was trying to establish in one sequence. I talked to that person later and told them that the song was about a woman murdering someone (Head Hung by Rorey carroll). He was shocked.

SGT Rock
2013-07-06, 21:15
I didn't listen to them closely when watching the movie, spent too much time following the dialog or enjoying the scenery. But later when I started looking for the tunes on youtube I did listen to them more closely.

SGT Rock
2013-07-06, 21:26
Jester, you have some great music on your PCT movie and I assume the CDT one will be as good at least. So how do you go about picking the music and then coordinating for permission to use it?

DesertReprobate
2013-07-07, 00:21
Permission?

Jester
2013-07-07, 15:07
Jester, you have some great music on your PCT movie and I assume the CDT one will be as good at least. So how do you go about picking the music and then coordinating for permission to use it?


Permission?

Yeah, you've got to have permission to use the music if you're going to sell the DVD or screen it publicly.

Where I find the music: a number of ways, but generally what I'm doing it targeting music I really like that is self-produced by the band. So in the case of the first movie, I actually knew people in two of the bands -- Camp Arawak and The Helots. Adam Arcuragi was someone I had seen live years ago in Philly; the Golden Butter Band was a group I saw live while living in Harpers Ferry. Damion Wolfe was a friend of a friend who I met long enough ago that he didn't remember it and Jake Krack is a fiddle player who I heard on the radio while driving through South Carolina.

For the new movie, I used one new song by The Helots, but the other bands are different. RUNA's lead singer used to be one of my Mom's Irish dance students what feels like another century ago, Rorey Carroll is an AT thru-hiker I met when she hiked 10 years ago, Kit Nelson is a woman I saw live when I was attending a film festival, and The John Byrne Band I heard locally on an Irish radio show.


How I get permission is basically just by asking. I edit to the music for much of the film, so I need to line up the permissions before I really get too far into the editing. I send out a contact letter explaining very generally what I'm doing, telling them that I love their music and that I'd like to use it in the movie. I tell them that I don't have a music budget for the film, but that they'll get screen credits, copies of the DVD, and links on my website to all of their sites, as well as support for their live shows through my social media pages.

If they write back that they're interested and they'd like to be a part of the project, I send them a second letter that I explain will act as the actual asking for and granting of permission. It goes into more detail -- the songs I want to use, what I'm going to use them for and what I'm not going to use them for (for example, I'll include that I will use the songs for YouTube short films but that I won't be releasing a soundtrack for the film). When they respond back positively I save the correspondence from all of the bands in a file.

In my mind and in my correspondence I treat the musicians as partners in a project rather than as outsiders whose music I'm using. I've had three of the bands from the first movie preform live after screenings of the film, and I do my best to keep them informed as to what's going on with what I'm doing. I also do my best to actively promote them when the movie is released -- I've heard back from the bands from Wizards that they all saw jumps in their sales following the release. So everyone does well. I've been very lucky to get permission for all of the music I've wanted, though. There's no doubt about that.

Wonder
2013-07-08, 15:52
That is really cool to be able to promote the local groups as well! Small businesses networking together...... Bands being small businesses.... Is really the only way to get ahead anymore! I'm sure that they were just as excited that you wanted to use the music! Win win all around! I hope your film sells out on day one!!

john pickett
2013-07-09, 16:42
"RUNA's lead singer used to be one of my Mom's Irish dance students what feels like another century ago"
Would that be the century before the internet?

Jester
2013-07-09, 18:46
"RUNA's lead singer used to be one of my Mom's Irish dance students what feels like another century ago"
Would that be the century before the internet?

Well, it was THAT century. But it feels like the century before that.