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BC9696
2013-12-29, 16:31
Has anyone come dangerously close to achieving complete satisfaction with your basic camping pack organization? As a bowhunter who infrequently spends 1-10 days in the field living out of a pack, I would be very interested in posts listing the items you carry for any overnight stay with an addendum for items added (besides food) based on the number of nights spent in the field. You might even segregate hot, mild and cold weather conditions for certain items. This is something I and many others (based on what I see in various hunting forums) struggle with all the time.

Nobody I know has suggested they have developed the quintessential pack item list and while individual selections will always vary (for example, I always camp in a hammock) I know there are items I could lose and/or might consider adding…especially in the First Aid dept. I recently stepped up to a Kifaru DT1 with alot extras (pockets, Longhunter lid, Woobie, meat & stuff sacks, Grab-it, etc) but now it’s time to get more serious with the list of pack items that are optional and mandatory so I can utilize the numerous pullouts effectively and cut unnecessary weight. For us with less experience, your assistance in this area could be invaluable. Care to share your expertise and lessons learned the hard way?

Superman
2013-12-29, 16:40
I carry a comb.

Lugnut
2013-12-29, 16:53
I carry a comb.

Why? You don't have any hair! :ahhhhh:

Superman
2013-12-29, 16:56
Why? You don't have any hair! :ahhhhh:

I have hair. You're the one that doesn't have hair because you're wicked old. How ever most of my hair has slipped down to my butt. That's not a problem though since I've struggled all these years to train my hair into a perfect DA. Now there isn't much difference between my ass and a ducks ass. Wa hoo...I win!

Hog On Ice
2013-12-29, 17:12
I carry a comb.

comes in handy for around the campfire entertainment no doubt

wrt OP quest for knowledge and general insightful comments:

one of my best changes in what I packed was when I changed to using a sleeping bag with sleeves and a draw string bottom - see Nunatak Raku (http://www.nunatakusa.com/site07/other_bags/raku.htm) - a truly great piece of gear since I don't need a jacket/fleece to keep warm in camp and the Raku has enough venting options that it is useful for fairly warm nights as well as cold nights

in terms of odd stuff I made myself an ASS chair that I could also sleep on - originally used because I had shoulder/rotator cuff tendinitis that made sleeping in a hammock very painful due to the fabric pushing against the shoulder. The chair however is great around camp also since I get real tired of sitting on the ground/rocks/logs etc without any support for my back - see thread http://hikinghq.net/forum/showthread.php?7264-A-Simple-Sling-chair for some details and evolution of the original idea.

Other than the above most of my gear changes are aimed at lighter weight options - for example I recently went with a cuben fiber tarp from Yama Mountain Gear (http://www.yamamountaingear.com/) after years of using a spinnul custom MacCat and before that years of using a silnylon custom MacCat and before that an Oware square tarp.

Another thing I just got was an Antigravity Gear rain jacket (http://www.antigravitygear.com/shop/rain-gear/432/) - I have given up on GoreTex jackets because they just don't last - a couple years and then the membrane start flaking. I will be deciding if this jacket is worth carrying in addition to the Packa (http://www.thepacka.com/) that I have been using.

Superman
2013-12-29, 17:32
HOI, show him a picture of your ASS.

BC9696
2013-12-29, 17:42
HOI, show him a picture of your ASS.

Please don't...I'd rather see items.

Bearpaw
2013-12-29, 17:44
Please don't...I'd rather see items.

HOI's ASS is a great item. I lay on it regularly.

Superman
2013-12-29, 17:53
I have marveled at HOI's ASS. It's amazing. I'll have to admit that some times I get it up.

Hog On Ice
2013-12-29, 20:55
have you sat on it yet?

Hog On Ice
2013-12-29, 20:56
Please don't...I'd rather see items.

just look at my avatar - that is my ASS that I am sitting on - not the one I now sleep on but similar just no down insulation

saimyoji
2013-12-29, 21:57
The three essential items in my pack are:

Gun
Cell phone
Dog

Lugnut
2013-12-29, 22:08
...and bacon. :albertein

SleepsWithSkunks
2013-12-29, 22:28
557255735574

Magpie fully endorses Hoi's ASS!!
So easy a 2 year old can use it!!

BC9696
2013-12-30, 01:08
Guess I came to the wrong place for backpacking info. If I ever have any concerns about anything anal i'll be sure to ask. http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg111/BC9696/good.gif (http://s246.photobucket.com/user/BC9696/media/good.gif.html)

Superman
2013-12-30, 02:39
Guess I came to the wrong place for backpacking info. If I ever have any concerns about anything anal i'll be sure to ask. http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg111/BC9696/good.gif (http://s246.photobucket.com/user/BC9696/media/good.gif.html)

What was it you wanted to know? HOI's ASS is very clever. Did you take a look at it?

shadowmoss
2013-12-30, 06:03
Guess he stumbled from the extreme of too much moderation and 'stick to the topic' admonitions to the other extreme of here. Not everyone make the jump successfully.

dixicritter
2013-12-30, 07:23
Guess I came to the wrong place for backpacking info. If I ever have any concerns about anything anal i'll be sure to ask. http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg111/BC9696/good.gif (http://s246.photobucket.com/user/BC9696/media/good.gif.html)

FYI, ASS = A Simple Sling chair. It is a piece of homemade backpacking gear. Relax no one is discussing concerns about anything anal here but you.

Roche
2013-12-30, 07:25
I know exactly what to pack but only after the trip. We all pack too much of this and too little of that but over time the tolerances get tighter. And I have never seen two people pack identically, even for an over nighter.

Superman
2013-12-30, 07:50
I know exactly what to pack but only after the trip. We all pack too much of this and too little of that but over time the tolerances get tighter. And I have never seen two people pack identically, even for an over nighter.

Yes, and when I do hikes of 500 miles or more I swap gear out as I go. If you don't use it every day send it home or bounce it forward.

Sargevining
2013-12-30, 08:35
Essential items:

Swiss Army Knife
Bandanna (or is it banana, I forget)
Poncho
Underwoobie

Roche
2013-12-30, 10:21
Bandanna (or is it banana, I forget)

Sarge, this is what google has on the subject:




http://youtu.be/6KTJlY3GZjs

Superman
2013-12-30, 10:27
That seems gay but why does she have her tail coming out of her back?

Lone Wolf
2013-12-30, 10:28
Guess I came to the wrong place for backpacking info. If I ever have any concerns about anything anal i'll be sure to ask. http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg111/BC9696/good.gif (http://s246.photobucket.com/user/BC9696/media/good.gif.html)very few on here actually backpack. most are packsniffin' wannabes

Roche
2013-12-30, 10:43
That seems gay but why does she have her tail coming out of her back?Not appreciating chicks dancing is gayer, just saying.

Superman
2013-12-30, 10:46
Not appreciating chicks dancing is gayer, just saying.

I don't know all that they were saying but it sounded gay to me. What about that miss-placed tail?

Roche
2013-12-30, 11:05
I don't know all that they were saying but it sounded gay to me. What about that miss-placed tail?You need to go immediately to the VA and get your gaydair recalibrated, it's not focusing correctly in a target rich environment.

Hog On Ice
2013-12-30, 11:25
the VA ??? talk about a target rich environment - I hear they had to increase security just to cover themselves

Superman
2013-12-30, 12:08
the VA ??? talk about a target rich environment - I hear they had to increase security just to cover themselves

The VA had no security until we Vietnam Vets came home. They invented the VA police just to hassle, harass and drive us away.

Superman
2013-12-30, 12:09
You need to go immediately to the VA and get your gaydair recalibrated, it's not focusing correctly in a target rich environment.

I wasn't wearing my hearing aids but what I did hear sounded gay. As far as the dancing goes...I guess it would have been better in jello.

cool breeze
2013-12-30, 12:39
The VA had no security until we Vietnam Vets came home. They invented the VA police just to hassle, harass and drive us away.

Sounds like something your buddy RH would say.

Roche
2013-12-30, 12:54
...what I did hear sounded gay.
My error sir. It is girl music and not a cover version of anything from Disraeli Gears.

SGT Rock
2013-12-30, 14:04
That is a huge list of things to cover. PRobably ought to break it down otherwise we will write a book.

D'Artagnan
2013-12-30, 14:11
What interests me at first glance is your signature line. According to the 2012 US Census, the percentage of blacks per capita in Vermont is around 1.1% while in Washington DC it's 50.1%. Just sayin'.

Crikey
2013-12-30, 15:24
Has anyone come dangerously close to achieving complete satisfaction with your basic camping pack organization? As a bowhunter who infrequently spends 1-10 days in the field living out of a pack, I would be very interested in posts listing the items you carry for any overnight stay with an addendum for items added (besides food) based on the number of nights spent in the field. You might even segregate hot, mild and cold weather conditions for certain items. This is something I and many others (based on what I see in various hunting forums) struggle with all the time.


There's a guy here named Tipi Walter, you might want to throw a message his way. I don't know him personally, but he posts multiple day trip reports and apparently has the biggest pack this side of the equator.

Superman
2013-12-30, 18:29
Sounds like something your buddy RH would say.

In this case it's true. They had a night watchmen that was usually older than dirt mostly kept drunks from walking in after hours. If there was a problem with the WWII or Korean vets they always had a couple burly orderlies that would deal with it. Bare in mind that the VAs were doing pre-frontal lobotomies and electric shock on those guys. Do to the massive abuses and the popularity of mind altering drugs they were forced to stop the lobotomies and electric shock. RH doesn't know the half of it when it comes to the VA.

Superman
2013-12-30, 18:32
What interests me at first glance is your signature line. According to the 2012 US Census, the percentage of blacks per capita in Vermont is around 1.1% while in Washington DC it's 50.1%. Just sayin'.

Yes, it's apples and oranges. I agree with the thought but not the comparison. I think everyone should be issued a gun as soon as they can drive a car.

BC9696
2013-12-30, 20:10
What interests me at first glance is your signature line. According to the 2012 US Census, the percentage of blacks per capita in Vermont is around 1.1% while in Washington DC it's 50.1%. Just sayin'.

These are merely facts but because I am a Tea Party Uber Conservative Christian, this post is automatically racist.

http://youtu.be/BIMFuUDSi3Q

Lugnut
2013-12-30, 20:18
Well then, welcome aboard. :beer:

Superman
2013-12-30, 20:18
These are merely facts but because I am a Tea Party Uber Conservative Christian, this post is automatically racist.

http://youtu.be/BIMFuUDSi3Q

Have you ever been to Vermont and DC?

Lone Wolf
2013-12-30, 20:18
These are merely facts but because I am a Tea Party Uber Conservative Christian, this post is automatically racist.

http://youtu.be/BIMFuUDSi3Qblack folks are fine. it's them niggas...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmP3OdZtreg

john pickett
2013-12-30, 20:55
I started a job at a VA hospital early November. This after being unemployed for 18 months. I don't think anything I read here will take away from my happiness in being employed again.

Lone Wolf
2013-12-30, 20:58
i love the VA. i get good care. those that bitch should get obamacare instead

Superman
2013-12-30, 21:23
i love the VA. i get good care. those that bitch should get obamacare instead

Actually the government should get the VA right and stop killing vets. I used to have these conversations with Bob Wilson. He'd do everything the VA said to do. He loved the VA. Oh, he's dead now do to a minor procedure at the VA.

Superman
2013-12-30, 21:25
I started a job at a VA hospital early November. This after being unemployed for 18 months. I don't think anything I read here will take away from my happiness in being employed again.

When we first came home the VA was 95% veterans helping vets. They weeded them out until Vets were less than 5% of the VA staff. It needs more vets in it.

sheepdog
2013-12-30, 22:54
This has turned into one of my favorite threads. I may start backpacking some day.

Superman
2013-12-30, 23:03
This has turned into one of my favorite threads. I may start backpacking some day.

That's crazy, the packs too heavy, you get all stinky and it's not catered.

sheepdog
2013-12-30, 23:08
That's crazy, the packs too heavy, you get all stinky and it's not catered.

I've heard you're often late for supper.

Hog On Ice
2013-12-31, 07:45
not true - once the Hunger hits you will have an early supper as well as a late supper - assuming the caterer doesn't screw up

Tin Man
2013-12-31, 07:47
I know exactly what to pack but only after the trip. We all pack too much of this and too little of that but over time the tolerances get tighter. And I have never seen two people pack identically, even for an over nighter.

i only know exactly what to pack when i am on the trail and what i am looking for ain't there... light bulb goes off... oh yeah, that's in the bag in the car that didn't get transferred to the pack... pass the scotch please... there, all better now.

Tin Man
2013-12-31, 07:50
very few on here actually backpack. most are packsniffin' wannabes

yep, i packsniffed for 110+/- AT miles this year and canoe packsniffed another 65 miles. ...and i only sniveled when i ran out of scotch.

Tin Man
2013-12-31, 07:56
That's crazy, the packs too heavy, you get all stinky and it's not catered.

blasphemy! the AT is catered at every road crossing... at least in the south... in the spring... at least that is what i heard...