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LTSinor
2014-01-04, 12:16
I have been using a Hennessey Deep Jungle XL hammock with a Radiant Double Bubble Pad for winter camping down to about 40F. I wanted to push a little and ordered a Hammock Gear Incubtor 20 underquilt for a colder hang. My question is - should I continue to use the bubble pad with the underquilt, or eliminate it from the setup?

sheepdog
2014-01-04, 13:43
I'd experiment with it and without it. Can't use it if you don't have it. A cold night can be miserable. up here 40* is fall camping and not all that cold.

Sargevining
2014-01-04, 14:03
I have an HHDJ. I can't see where you're from and what temps you can anticipate, but I think in most states except the Northern tier, the Incubator would be enough. One thing to consider: the underquilt works by trapping your body heat and holding that against you. The bubble pad works by reflecting you body heat back at you. Its entirely possible, if not probable that this effect of the bubble pad would prevent, or at least hinder, the transfer of any of your body heat into the underquilt, thus negating its primary purpose.

I've only used the double bubble pad when car camping as I find it cumbersome and too bulky for the pack YMMV.

SGT Rock
2014-01-04, 16:37
I never liked the bubble pad.

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Roche
2014-01-05, 09:47
Sargevining is spot on, my experience is you will not get the same warmth as say stacking a 40* UQ with a 20* UQ. A few things I add from top to bottom: space blanket - UQ - sheet of insultex - UQ protector. YMMV, experiment in the backyard or car camping before you try it in the backcountry (no bail-out options).

LTSinor
2014-01-05, 12:15
Thank you for your comments. I should have mentioned that I tend to hang in Northern Georgia, South and North Carolina. I will test your excellent advice early this week - supposed to be lows around 5 degree's - in the back yard to have an easy escape. Again - thanks for your advice.

sheepdog
2014-01-05, 15:23
I hope we didn't screw that up. :biggrin:

Skidsteer
2014-01-05, 15:33
Testing in 5* is a lot of fun when the back door is 50 yards away.

One more piece of advice: Take a house key with you.

sheepdog
2014-01-05, 15:34
You lock your doors at night??


what a novel concept.

Skidsteer
2014-01-05, 15:36
No, no but wives can be practical jokers sometimes.

sheepdog
2014-01-05, 15:37
good point



my first one came up with a restraining order

Big Mac
2014-01-05, 15:48
Testing in 5* is a lot of fun when the back door is 50 yards away.

One more piece of advice: Take a house key with you.

Voice of experience?

Tin Man
2014-01-05, 17:11
No, no but wives can be practical jokers sometimes.

oh? your's was joking?

Bearpaw
2014-01-05, 18:42
Have a square of foam, maybe 18" x 18", with you. I find I am snug down to way low (My incubator is the 0 degree model), but no matter what I do, I get a hint of CBS (Cold Butt Syndrome). When I slide the square of foam under my raer, I am perfectly warm.

Hog On Ice
2014-01-05, 20:00
I still think a hot water bottle is the best way to stay warm in a hammock in the cold

sheepdog
2014-01-05, 20:05
I stayed warm all night at about 25*. The water bottles not in the hammock froze solid. I used a full length foam pad and a full length inflatable pad. toasty warm. We were canoe camping but the pads would not have been too heavy to carry.
The hot water bottle is always a good trick HOI.

Tin Man
2014-01-05, 21:34
Once I finally tried the hot water bottle trick, scout winter camping became a lot more fun.

Bearpaw
2014-01-05, 21:58
I used the hot water bottle before I ever deployed to Norway, but it was grade A happiness north of the Arctic Circle.

john pickett
2014-01-06, 23:16
"I still think a hot water bottle is the best way to stay warm "
I like a hot woman, myself.

LTSinor
2014-01-07, 09:09
Had a"good" night to test - 5F with wind chill at -15. With the pad and underquilt, the only real problem, once I was warm under the upperquilt, that I noticed was condensation. There seemed to be a lot more condensation. When I pulled out the pad, got back under the upperquilt and warmed up, the condensation wasn't bad. I didn't try the hot water bottle trick, but will eventually give it a shot. Thanks for the advice.

Razor
2014-01-07, 18:34
I believe every woman that backpacks is a HOT woman !

Tin Man
2014-01-07, 18:38
I believe every woman that backpacks is a HOT woman !

while i agree in general, let's not get too hasty here... i can think of a few i would not care to backpack with

Hog On Ice
2014-01-07, 19:01
well in general I think that backpacking women have great looking legs

Superman
2014-01-07, 19:04
well in general I think that backpacking women have great looking legs

I agree but I will admit that I hiked the AT expecting to meet the young lady on the cover of the 2000 thru hiker companion.

Skidsteer
2014-01-07, 19:05
well in general I think that backpacking women have great looking legs

Damn skippy.

Sargevining
2014-01-07, 19:18
well in general I think that backpacking women have great looking legs

Let's test that theory.

http://www.off-road.com/gallery/d/2618-4/PHOTO_4749784_27589_4371328_main.jpg

Theory tested and confirmed.

Tin Man
2014-01-07, 19:30
Let's test that theory.

http://www.off-road.com/gallery/d/2618-4/PHOTO_4749784_27589_4371328_main.jpg

Theory tested and confirmed.

she's not going to get far with her pants unbuttoned... not that i would take her much past the end of the bridge... if that far

Hog On Ice
2014-01-07, 19:51
so how many hiker couples have got it on in the middle of a suspension bridge - any tales?

Tin Man
2014-01-07, 19:55
so how many hiker couples have got it on in the middle of a suspension bridge - any tales?

you mean besides her?

Hog On Ice
2014-01-07, 19:58
well I suppose her breasts could be thought of as "getting it on" as in - they are fucking ........................... big

sheepdog
2014-01-07, 23:37
so how many hiker couples have got it on in the middle of a suspension bridge - any tales?
Does knocking off my girl friend in the back of a truck camper while crossing the Mackinac Bridge count??

Tin Man
2014-01-07, 23:48
Does knocking off my girl friend in the back of a truck camper while crossing the Mackinac Bridge count??

works for me

Hog On Ice
2014-01-07, 23:53
was she a hiker?

sheepdog
2014-01-07, 23:59
was she a hiker?

she hiked her skirt up. Does that count?

Sargevining
2014-01-08, 00:05
works for me

OK then, what about in the back of a Pinto on the Interstate through Ohio? If so, then I'll raise my hand, too. I think we went over an overpass.